Nvidia to blame for more Vista crashes than Microsoft

I have watched and read how some people like this or that. Some like ATI some Nvidia some ADM some Intel.

All of that is nonsense in the whole scheme of things. Microsoft in their rush to phase out XP and force people into Vista have caused some conflicts because Microsoft has changed even within XP through updates some approved others unapproved through backdoor updates to cause Crashing of XP and other programs.

This is noticed more so over the last year as some programs suddenly stop working or launching that had before. Microsoft blames the manufacture or drivers.

The truth is that Microsoft gives out specs to the manufactures. In many cases those specs are out of date or deliberately incorrect to cause conflicts. 

Microsoft's end goal is to control the Platform market and game market.
They got caught in Germany crashing out win 98 on purpose and had to pay a penalty

They are doing the same now. 
This issue of vista however is that Vista has always been a problem because it was really a beta release that had not all its bugs worked out.

Thus Vista is a work in progress which changes from month to month week to week. Thus you have Nvidia and ATI scrambling to try and keep up. ATI crashes within vista just like NVidia. NVidia has the better graphics cards hands down! No question about that.

Sorry ATI lovers. ATI in general sucks when you really play games at super high resolutions and with high real time swaps. I should know I test computers compatibility with a few game companies.

My current most loved system is XP 32 bit because 64 bit version is unstable at higher demand levels.
I use NVidia 9600GT in quad SLI. I use Intel chips because that is the only way right now to get SLI without problems.

ADM makes a good enough chip for average use. But they screwed when they partnered with ATI. It forever relegated them to second class citizenship within the market because they are forever behind the curve. An Example is that one single Nvidia 9600, runs 2x faster than the best ATI driver if you do not try to overclock the hell out of it.

The truth is that most gamers overclock too much to try and get the better realtime response. What they should do is actually go SLI to achieve the same result. Thus slightly overclock but add more graphics cards in SLI and you will see performance like never before without all the headaches.

All my problems and crashes over the last decade have come from Microsoft or a lemon hardware issue. 

Microsoft loves to pass the buck. The truth is that they are the cause of 90% or more of all problems concerning performace.

8% is spyware and viruses. The remaining 2% is other issues.

My current computer, I had to remove a Microsoft installed update that I did not approve. It was a big brother report home item looking for pirated software or what Microsoft calls illegal ware. I deleted that out. It solved some of the performance problems.

But honestly, Microsoft is the cause of drivers not working very well because its hard enought to write a good driver in the first place without having the platform change its code every week to month causing the graphics programmers more headaches.

Dudes, I really don't get it. I can play every single game on the market today on XP.

Why is it that I need to bother with vista at all??

I have an AGP ATI X1950 pro & a 6400+ AMD proc.

The games are smooth & have a decent 40+ FPS on most games with high detail settings.

I don't have any crashes, except occasional game crashes. XP is stable as a rock.

Vista crashing? because of drivers??

WHO CARES?

Anyone caught buying Vista is an idiot.

Your new super soar-away OS is crashing?? REALLY??

BOO HOO HOO.

Just remember, if you buy vista, you are letting MS screw you. 

In fact MS has been trying to screw us all ever since the "invention" of DirectX.

With DirectX10 microsoft is purposefully making sure XP will not support it.

This means microsoft is trying to screw you for the 10th time in a row. Keep your zippers fastened & have some pepper spray just in case it tries to force itself on you.

Maybe if vista didn't have so much DRM protection, the drivers would work better

Digibetus, ever think that instead of it being your theory of sales (you can check sale like JPR does), it's because nVidia launches so many Beta drivers and not WHQL certified drivers that's the issue?

You're never going to get me to belive that nV sell more than 3 times as many GPUs as intel, because that would be the only thing to explain your theory, and we all know who rolls back to XP on a new system, it's not the intergrated and low end crowd, it's all those high end buyers you guys keep focusing on. So it's not likely that in the early days it was all those "gotta game on Vista" GF8800 crowd people seem to think it was. 
Maybe if there were more official WHQL launches than multiple Betas launches in a week/month, maybe there wouldn't be so many crahses, hmm?

They have disabled Video Mirroring on their 8 series cards. No more RAW TV out and minimized/small window on the desktop for you!

Instead you will have to maximize the video window in the secondary desktop display which looks like ARSE!

Reason? Probably so you can't get a RAW analog HD copy from component out.

Gotta love DRM.

When Amd bought ATI out i couldnt justify their mediocre processors anymore, and had to defect to intel, having always been strictly amd/nvidia. I still wanted to put my cash with amd to help the smaller guy and ended up with the infamous r600 2900xt. I think nvidia really only started screwing drivers up at the point of vista, with the gtx being possibly one of the best gpu's of all time being hampered by dodgy drivers over 1 year after release!!!!

I really havnt had any significant issues with ati, except their incredibly poor aa/ af performance hit.

Just a thought.

I'm still waiting for WMV acceleration on NV40. NVidia is one of the most unscrupulous companies out there. They are in the habit of making promises that they cannot keep as well as, shall we say, stretching the truth on specs. ATI may have "lost" the last few rounds, but their overall software support has been much better than nVidia's for the last decade. 

So really it comes as no great shock that nVidia was to blame for many blue screens or equivalent on Vista early on. I can speak from experience that I too had graphics corruption on one specific game using a 7900GTX and Vista 32bit. Tried all the driver sets, XP compatibility mode...nada, so I bought an HD3870 and have no desire to ever deal with nVidia again. Been there done that quite a bit already thanks. 

The Inq. has been fantastic taking nVidia to task over the years, keep it up guys.

Can someone explain why a graphics driver bug should cause a total system crash? The Nvidia driver is pretty appalling on Linux as well but the kernel doesn't die, I just ssh in and restart it, no reboot necessary.
Sounds to me like Microsoft have some fundamental memory management issues with Windows!

How did they get these numbers and doesn't this just show that most early vista users have a nvidia gfx card? You need to know a lot more before you can say anything usefull about these percentages...

And to Ratfink: There are always new beta drivers to try and today is your lucky day because nvidia released new drivers :)

AMD/Ati will issue chipset say, 580 & Nvidia will issue chipset, eg:590X. People Whom BUY Retail don't realize ATI Gamecards won't Play on Nvidia mainboard chipset & same for Nvida Game card on AMD/ATI mainboard chipset. You Can Force issue & they will work, of corse NOT as Stable.

Beta Events also Crush Guts out of Mainboard controllers, while ?Mixing? XP into Vista Operating System, well result leaves entire Machine Crippled for Life, in need of ChipHenge. +++ 

Almost every Failure has Obvious, Known Failure Point, if you read thousands of technical pages per day on subject of Your Own Crash. This is Why People BUY Retailbuilt Warrentee Machines, When its time, it is Capable.

Vista dosn't Crash thru door like Bad Boy Hunter XP, Vista seldom crashes,ever, if left to correct enviorment.It is complex, seeking keys, door Knobs, turning handles, & then gentlely opening door, Leaving Machine much better Off Intenally. If your Hardware dosn't have all those Mechanisms', well Vista Starts Failing, yet still Seldom Crashing, just stopping events.
More Complex Vista componets Do Get Challenged in NT6, eg-Media Center, More Likely causing in use Failure, 
I'd Say those Rough Days of NT6 are behind US. Using Chipset from PAST Are Like Mixing Nvidia & ATI, it cann't happen with Vista nor any, Vista is Step UP.Keep to Right Hardware/Software & You Won't Have ULTIMATE Problems.
It just figures Most of Problems are between conflicting companies, using conflicting specs that causes naivee USERS uses Total Trouble.
Ati nor Nvidia may seem be root at specific point, it may really be lousy sound card or incompatible software spinning about from start up. Some times one must step back, eliminate problems & reestablish solid base, Before Permanent Damage occurs to Hardware.
Thomas Drashek

From the reports generated by Vista I have had two crashes so far one crash Vista recovered but were both video related. I still think it is doing pretty good as my gaming rig.
X38 platform with 3.0 Ghz Core2 and a 8800 GTS 512.

Most PC overclockers use nvidia chipsets for the motherboard as well as the video card GPU. I would expect this statistic because if you overclock too far the driver will crash.

A more interesting statistic would be:

Out of the 28.8% of nvidia caused crashes, how many of the users were attempting an overclock of their GPU at the time of the crash?

If I were to fathom a guess at my own stats regarding this, I would say that I caused the driver crash myself (with a failed OC) about 80% of the time.

HAR HAR HAR
nVIDIA Rules as always!

NVIDIA could get around to adding Custom resolutions and timings, or modified info to the driver some time before I buy a new monitor.

I have a BNC connected Sony monitor which I have to swap the cables on after setting the mode with a VGA cable for graphics work because of the ongoing lack of feature support for most media drivers including NVIDIA's.

Come on, NVIDIA, I am on the verge of making the XP boot my default work environment, and using my Linux box as more than a platform build/test environment when XP is phased out.

Let me think ...
The key feature for Vista was DX10 ?
Who invented this ugly API ?
and for how long nvidia was the only to support it ?
Bad boys nvidia ...
They did a terribly wrong thing.
They are the people to blame for the existence of Vista (if not them, vista share would be much less then existing 10% of market).

As usual Microsoft will blame everyone and everything instead of admitting.
Instead of talkin the should try harder to make Good Quality products.

Well, considering I recently copped a lovely blue screen courtesy of the latest NVIDIA driver on Vista, and the fact that the driver hasn't been updated since December LAST YEAR, I'd say it's time for them to get back to their "great progress".