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UK Surveillance Society 'danger to individual liberty'

Information commissioner gives evidence to Lords
Wed Nov 14 2007, 11:10

The House of Lords Constitution Committee, currently investigating surveillance and data collection in the UK, will today (Wednesday) hear evidence from Richard Thomas, the Information Commissioner, and his deputy Jonathan Bamford.

Thomas has repeatedly drawn attention to the rise of what he has dubbed the 'surveillance society' and the dangers it poses to individual liberty. He will also be questioned on how effective he feels Parliamentary scrutiny is in protecting the individual from unnecessary intrusion on their privacy by the state.

The Lords' Constitution Committee has been investigating surveillance and data collection since April this year and will publish its final report next summer. µ

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Give up liberties for justice ?

If you need to do that, then you seriously need to rethink your definition of justice.
Liberty is not to be given up. Ever. Under no circumstance.
Millions of people in History have died for Liberty. No one should forget that. Especially not the citizens of the one country in the world that used to base its Pledge of Allegiance on the words "Liberty and Justice for all".
But hey, you don't actually recite that old thing anymore, now do you ?

posted by : Pascal Monett, 15 November 2007 Complain about this comment
Down the Slippery Slope

"UK Surveillance Society 'danger to individual liberty'" -- Obviously. Throughout human history, total surveillance of an unarmed populace always leads to a nearly total loss of meaningful personal freedoms. On the other hand, UK politicians are beyond reproach and will remain so forever... Not.

posted by : Ed, 14 November 2007 Complain about this comment
Liberties...

At some point you need to give up a bit of your "liberties" for justice. The same surveillance they're criticizing helped catch suspected bombers years ago.

posted by : mataroo, 14 November 2007 Complain about this comment
Moralistic Finger-Pointers ...

Can hypocrisy be so stupid as to assume that people will do the “right” thing when empowered? No, but the rationality is that you’ve got to do something. Double-edged swords or not, tarring all with the same brush should keep things in check, right?. Not when technology can blow all away with a press of the same button in the manner that perpetual kleptos delight in being able to print money and jolly rogers too. And which idiotic chosen few lunatic gave vent to that reasoning. The one who is now on his way towards immortality. A real nutter if there ever was one. The police don’t care as long as it make their jobs easier and the chosen few don’t care as long as they can mint from it and the politcians don’t care as long as they can be seen to be engels in the making. Education, education & education will not do the job. It’s moreality, morality, morality and not moralising, moralising, and moralising. And the difference between the two is not whether you own the truth within a given matter. It’s whether you are truthful or whether you’ve never been caught. The majority of dumb blankness don’t care as long as they can sit on the fence until hypocrisy beckons and then, they too become angels in the making. That’s called moralising.

posted by : wheelus, 14 November 2007 Complain about this comment
Not so certain about that...

"Liberties...
At some point you need to give up a bit of your "liberties" for justice. The same surveillance they're criticizing helped catch suspected bombers years ago. "

I'm not so sure about that: Take a listen to this: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4780612

posted by : jweller13, 14 November 2007 Complain about this comment
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