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16 GB on a Skulltrail workstation? And Fast? Yeah, baby...

First INQpressions Hynix 4 GB FB-DIMMs
Wed Oct 29 2008, 16:37

FB-DIMMS, even in their FBD-800 speed grade, were never really considered performance champions. Yes, with four channels on the Seaburg chipset, these babies do give you 25.6 GB/s theoretical bandwidth, but even the best Sandra scores never went above 9GB/s sustained test results.

On the other hand, use of reliable, high-capacity server modules did let Intel's Skulltrail dual-socket mainboard support some nasty densities fairly early for the desktop. In this case, 16 GB in four sockets would have been a reality - BIOS support quirks aside - far earlier than on any uniprocessor desktops.

But to overclock those? Get real - even Kingston's 1GB heat-piped FB-DIMMs couldn't go above 4-4-3-9 latency settings at FBD-800. And the last parameter, Tras min, was conveniently still preset at 12 by the BIOS no matter what you manually set it to.

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Well, maybe all's not that bad - this week we got hold of a quadruplet of Hynix 4 GB FBD-800 modules, with an attractive sexy naming HYMP 151F72CP4D5-S5-C. Each DIMM contains 36 pcs 1Gbit memory dies plus the usual hot Advanced Memory Buffer chip. The modules have a standard defined CL 5-5-5-18 SPD latency, and we didn't expect them to perform much better anyway.

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Wrong - without changing any voltages, these were booting at 4-4-3-9 all the way into Windows Vista64. Interestingly, the previous BIOS 1140 didn't recognise 16 GB properly, showing the configuration as 8 or 12 GB depending on the luck. The upgrade to the newest BIOS 1149 solved the problem.

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Now we had 16 GB on Windows Vista - however, the memory benchmarks, including Sandra, couldn't complete until I changed the DRAM die voltage to 1.92 volts (the AMB chip voltage stays at 1.5 volts all the while). The 4-4-4-9 is what at the end passed all the bandwidth, latency and stress tests well.

Note that these are the first FB-DIMM modules of this density tested by us to successfully reach this performance level. Even the 2GB modules by Micron and Nanya couldn't go beyond 5-4-5-10 after all attempts. So, memory tuning is possible even on very high capacity FB-DIMMs after all, and Hynix, a company not often associated with overclockable performance memory, is the unexpected beneficiary here.

With an 8cm fan mounted to cool the FB-DIMM modules, the temperature only went up by about 2C from 43C to 45C for the modules, not bad as the ambient test room temperature today was 34C anyway - this is Singapore after all. Can some London weather visit us instead for a change?

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Any benefit in the results over the usual 5-5-5 timing? Well, a jump from 8.2 to 8.45GB/s in Sandra 2009 SP1 bandwidth results, and from 102ns to 95ns in latency results - this latency comes close to many high end UP desktops then. I didn't overclock the CPU this time at all for this purpose.

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As you can also see, while our Hynix-enhanced Dual quad-core has pretty nice latency, the memory bandwidth test of a Xeon 5500 - Nehalem or Gainestown DP with i5500 Tylersburg DP chipset and six channels of DDR3-1333 registered memory will still be 4.5x faster than a dual-socket Xeon 5400 Skulltrail or equivalent.

The problem is, we may have to wait till sometime early next year for more of these to appear. In the meantime, a dual socket, 8-core setup like Skulltrail or Asus Z7S-WS (the powerful Xeon FSB overclocker workstation mobo - the next test target for these modules), coupled with a quad set of 4 GB DIMMs like this Hynix spread, will give you a taste of a super workstation with performance tuning potential to boot. µ

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Skulltrail is dead

Or better, was DOA, never went on the market.
why waste money on it?

posted by : yoda, 29 October 2008 Complain about this comment
integrated northbridge is soo 2009

OMGWTFBBQSAUCE ! An Intel box with a price tag that actually rivals my 2 year old AMD box with a FACTOR 5 including a SLI GF260c216 setup and is actually a WHOLE Gigabyte slower then the 2006 K8 Opterons...

Applause ! sigh.... Intel FSB is sooo very pwned, it aint funny anymore. The CPU is dead, long live the CPU. * hoists pirate flag on Intels' Itanic* Anyway, I'm off to crack some more MD5 hashes with my GPU.

CPUs are sooo 2006.

posted by : Aryan, 29 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Thank you, Nebojsa Novakovic

What would it be like to have all that power and not be subject to chipskates? Why did I ever bleed me plastic a year or two ago instead of waiting until next year? It was a really stupid thing to do. Now I've no hope of getting a refund less much the bailout. But the vindictive nature and motives of collections what may come in the daily mail. I never did put it all together. But it was so shiny! The poop was beaten gold; it beggar'd all description. How was I lulled down the Primrose path? Pranks called from well known Brands, and now then it was too early to speculate which absolescence will be clearly inappropriate and unacceptable. Hare Krishna !

posted by : Sadsack Evilsbad, 29 October 2008 Complain about this comment
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