New AMD roadmaps appear

I just want to see them execute SOMETHING! ANYTHING! 

I don't care if I don't see any roadmaps, I just want to see a real product, DAAMIT!

Apparently Barcelona will not work in older Mainboards, OLDER Meaning Yesterday & Today & for some time, as it useS multiple voltages at same time, in core, so its input pins are also multiple ?, anyway, due to unique Voltages simultaneously in core, there are no Mainboards, AT ALL.

Testers Stuck Pair into tyan 29XX, No Go, took working system & stuck in Barcelona & 50% lower scores than opteron dual cores. Thats BIG PROBLEM, I think. 

Maybe its simple Hardware Socket or just rewire/upgrade of controllers, YET What if Barcelona internal CROSSBARS are all tuned wrong to put out such slow output. 


extra!!!extra:kb940520 tests redfiboost/butt locker. Get it ,BUTT ,ha.ha.ha?ah.

Signed:PHYSICIAN THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK M.D..

Keep dancing in those aisles Chucky. LOL!!!!

I guess all I'd like is for them to bring out a good contender for Intel already. I've been an AMD fan for the last decade it seems, and I would like to upgrade, sticking with AMD. But it looks like I may have to go with a cheap Intel soon just to keep my computer up and running.

Die, FUD-bot.

If the comment about Barcelona incompatibility with existing motherboards is true then we aren't we due for the AM2 debacle all over again in the consumer space in Q2? (I am assuming that most businesses upgrade their CPUs by buying new servers rather than pulling the chips on the MB.)


Where is Barcelona?

When you launch a product 3 speed grades down (or 6 if you use 0.1GHz increments), it is not that surprising that we will only see 2.6GHz parts (at best) this year, and likely in extremely low volumes.

What is surprising is that some of the mainstream products are getting pushed back by 2 quarters! The dual core Kumas, originally scheduled for launch in Q4, is now Q2'08 - does this mean the only desktop dual cores will be K8's for the near future? No wonder why they slashed prices - it wasn't to clear out inventory 2-3 quarters in advance of K10, it's to keep those chips selling until they can finally get the K10 duallies out the door.

lol your a fucking idiot, got any proof to back that up? the current barcelona's have already prooven better effeciency then the xeon, this article is talking about phenom, the desktop K10.

and AM2+ is backwards compatible with AM2 you just wont get HT3.

get your facts straight

I've been a loyal AMD customer for many years but I'm just finding it very difficult now to stick with them at this point. A lot of their products I bought in the past because they were cheap and I felt they were a good value, but at some point you just want to be able to get the best performance possible and AMD hasn't had that for a while. When there were on top and doing well they didn't do anything with their lead, they didn't really capitalize on the advantage they had with the Athlon 64.
Everytime I turn around Intel is pimping their products with one commercial or another or making appearances on news programs promoting their latest and greatest product. AMD over time has positioned itself as the underdog against the Intel giant and refuses to get out there and put up a real fight. It's good to be the company that's basically "not Intel" but you need more then that. 3 out of 4 people on the street know what Intel is because they recognize the brand, the average person that isn't into computer games and building PC's probably has no clue who AMD is or that they offer products that are SUPPOSED to be competitive with Intel.
I know that Intel has more money, more fabs, more employees, etcetera, but AMD has to actually stand up and put up a fight of some kind in order to compete. You can't passively take on a company like Intel and expect to succeed. If AMD is so restricted because of disappointing profits or whatever other problems they have had then they need to step up and seek out investors or partnerships or whatever else they need to do in order to increase the performance of their products more quickly and to increase their profits in general.

The investment in ATI has obviously prooved difficult for both companies. 

Both have taken their eyes off the ball and taken far to long to release new products during this mariage of convenience.

Maybe now that AMD have successfully entered the console arena through ATI their future success is assured.

Big hope!

I hope they don't take their collective eyes off this opportunity and let Intel back in.

Actually its article about AMD Roadmaps, my point being there might be few Troubles in store first. 

I read article few days ago, so its recent & I even sent it in, as it sounds pretty BAD for AMD.

Also Nathan Brockwood, Pundit whom started with iA64 Beat is also writing furiously about how AMD Triple Core Score Higher than Quad Core.

Real Question is how Soon will Quad be able to Overtake Triple core or is AMD overjumping GUN on its Roadmapped Plans?

Siigned:Doctor Wibble.

One big reason AMD couldn't take better business advantage of their technological lead a couple of years ago were because they were being systematically held to a certain percentage of the market by Intel's business contracts with companies like Dell. Had Dell been selling AMD desktops, laptops, and servers two or three years ago, things would be much different now. Intel used this time to play technological catch-up by slapping together these so called multi-core chips with huge caches.

Ok, intel tech its 2 years away from amd, but remember what happened in the past with clockspeed, heat disspation, large cache sizes... amd rulez based on superb floating point processing units, and great risc based architecture. finally intel overcome amd based on refinating fab processes. Then amd rebirth again with amd64 architecture, and intel again strikes refining fab processes... this time intel is doing a good job with architecture on nehalem... Let AMD react... thats what i would like to see... dont really know if they will be able to do it... but lets give amd a chance... remember the great jump between K6III and superb K7 ahtlon... hope so. (please apologize for my english)