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Many-cored AMD processors spotted
NEW INFORMATION from a DAAMIT road-map has been exposed by Dailytech, with a number of very interesting additions.
Firstly, a new socket dubbed 'Socket G34' has been unveiled, which paves the way for DDR3 support.
Along with the new socket will come two new second-generation 45nm CPUs.
The 8-core 'Sao Paolo' is described as a "twin native-quadcore Shanghai processor" by one AMD engineer who spoke with Dailytech.
This basically means two sandwiched quad-core CPUs, much like Intel does with non-native quad-cores - two dual-core CPUs packaged together.
The better-known 'Shanghai', which is expected to ship late this year, is AMD's first 45nm shrink of the often-maligned Barcelona processor which is currently on sale.
It's said that both of these new processors will feature four Hypertransport 3 interconnects, 12MB of L3 cache and 512KB L2 cache per core.
There was also additional mention of 'Magny-Cours' (suspicously sounding like 'many-cores' but named after the F1 motor racing circuit in France) which is the name of the previously-whispered 12-core behemoth.
Also of note is the fact that in 2010 AMD will provide registered and unregistered quad-channel DDR3 support, which is nothing to sniff at.
Dailytech counted 1974 pin connects on a leaked G34 diagram the site managed to obtain, which is 767 more pins than AMD's current LGA1207 socket. µ
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That's a lot of pins.
"Twin-Native"

Some sort of vergabe to avert the notion that they're about to achieve hypocrite status?
Back when the Opteron came out AMD told us all how great integrating the memory controller on the CPU was, how they could just change it on the CPU and the motherboards would continue to work just fine. So why a new socket? Why are you as bad as Intel was with sockets now? 

AMD deserves to die as a company because they just don't get why they were successful a few years ago.
It started to look as if AMD's 45nm processors were never going to arrive. Hopefully they'll be on par with Intel's aswell...
Wait! I thought MCM was a bad Idea, at least while Barcelona was in development. Now that INTC is coming out with native multicore architectures, AMD is going to the bad idea, or is MCM now a good idea? 

Sorry, uh, I’m confused. Wait, I think I’ve got it! AMD can’t do native multi anything. They don’t have the process or the design to pull it off! 

Hmmm, that’s a nice spin. 

SPARKS 
So IATMAD are going to do with 8core CPUs what they denounced and put down intel over with their quads.

So when are AMADIT bringing out the "real" "native" 8 cores? Or are they going to let us get by with a "stopgap" "superglue" processor?

Yeah, those are all DIAATMs words :)
I doubt is the same as Intel has with their current quads. More likely is that they will have just one hypertransport link between both quads instead of the multilink currently used internally. Given that current dual and quad socket configurations pretty much do that already with no ill results, it should still work better than intel's current approach.
... was touting Technology breakthroughs at the time. If people like Dan still think that processor technology should hold true 6-12 months down the line, why the hell are you continuing to buy into the 6 month refresh cycles and then berating the companies that keep your addictions sound? Dan, while I agree that AMD seems a bit wishy washy here, it's not a matter of pride any more, it's a matter of making money. AMD needs to do the dual quad thing to make money, instead of waiting for their wallets to fill up and upgrading their fabs to make it happen natively. I'm a long time supporter of AMD, and I have nothing bad to say about AMD making this choice. AMD does not deserve to die as a company, you sir, deserve to die for being so closed minded. They're learning from past mistakes. When you can sit back and observe, you can make assumptions about what you'd do in the same position with relative ease. Until you own multi billions worth of fabs, you have no right to dog AMD or any other company.