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Wednesday, 7 May 2003, 01:46
TAKE A LOOK at this link (german, therefore the important points translated). Astonishing are some very strange aspects of the test:

1st No updates of RedHat Advanced Server.
2nd No new Samba version.
3rd No new kswapd (should especially speed up performance under high load).
4th Original Samba version got difficulties, used even older ones, but did not ask RedHat for any help.
5th Tuning of Windows using Registry-Key "Disablelastaccess", but did not use corresponding mount-Option "noatime" for the used ext3 file system.
6th ext3 uses a much more sophisticated journaling of the file system, but they did not set the mount option "data=writeback" to have similar conditions.
7th Very old LinUX kernel (over one year old, with known limits of this kernel for high load environments - do you remember all these 2.4.xy problems because of the virtual memory!?).
8th Redhat provides solutions to the most of the described problems, but they did not use these updates or that help.
9th They did not really try to tune Samba and used mostly the default settings.

It may be, that Windows Server 2003 is better, I really do not know. I am neither a LinUX nor a Windows expert, but I know that they had larger issues with the virtual memory of the LinUX kernel for solving high load problems. All other arguments seem to be reasonable too and disqualify the test as extremely bad work. A test paid from Microsoft with the corresponding result.

Best regards,
Dirk

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After reading the 'objective' test report, I noticed at least:

* NTFS filesystems were using either 32k or 64k byte blocksizes, while the default ext3 blocksize is 1kbyte. This is pretty huge, depending on the test load regimen.
* it was not clear whether windows drivers enable writeback cache by default, but for a RAIDed system on a UPS, ext3 filesystems should be configured to run in writeback mode.
* there's a number of samba optimizations not used here, which in combination may have improved Linux performance: TCP_NODELAY, IPTOS_THROUGHPUT, IPTOS_LOWDELAY, SO_KEEPALIVE are biggies. Enabling kernel and client oplocks can also significantly boost performance. Read/Write Raw should be evaluated to see if the general conditions warrant those optimizations or not.

IOW, another flawed FUD smear from our friends in Redmond... Though technically it _would_ reflect an incompetent Samba default, which if the 2k3 default is better it would be a bit more valid..

Cheers,
Matt

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Subject: Microsoft nicks Apple ideas

Maybe Apple should *nick* at least one Microsoft idea--like turning a profit, instead of going from one initially hyped but soon forgotten failure to the next.

How are those stores doing, Steve, not to mention that fantastic direct sales website?

Robert

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Subject: Internet Explorer bug

on that IE bug. <input type crash>

as an interesting side note. If you try to put it in the header of an HTML document using Front Page it automatically moves it into the body. Which I thought a bit odd.

Wanted to create a link on my website that if you clicked it would kill IE. Might still do it yet.

Erik

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I just hope the Nigerian scammers don't hear about this bug. Next scam email I get, I'm replying in HTML with <body><input type die motherfucker die></body> in it (minus the body tags).

Byron

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I am all for Microsoft bashing when it's called for or justified, but please a bug that is found so late in a product life that is used as widely as IE seems to indicates that it is not as easy to find as you want to make it seem in your article.

It might just be a "html tag" but to call it the dumbest bug is pretty far fetched since it remained so long hidden and unfound. Journalist should try to be more objective in writting articles since going for "flashy and shock" make you loose respect rather then seem witty like you probably were aiming for.

Eric

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Subject: Windows Server 2003 worse than Linux

The couple things I saw were that the files max was set too large which
actually slows down the machine. That is unnecessary with later kernels
so using a year old kernel didn't help because the hardware was newer
than the kernel, which were items 1,2 and 3 that were wrong. Of course
I'd have gone with reiserfs, too.

These tests can be altered significantly just by using the wrong file size.

Thanks, for reporting it.

David

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Subject: How to run a PC without Microsoft apps

Am I wrong to assume that he still is using windows? Most Linux solutions accomplish this feat by default.

I on the other hand do still run Windows XP, and have quite a similar configuration as this particular gentleman.

Media Player-
Koala Film Player
WinAmp 3

Office-
Openoffice.org

IE+Outlook-
Opera

Messenger-
Trillian Pro

Photoeditor-
Adobe Photoshop 7

Shell-
Aston

I have to admit I still do use MS notepad and I still use Outlook Express, mainly for the reason that they not force anything on you, nor are they loaded with thousands of features no one uses. To me, they don't even really count as MS products.

I recommend that you guys take a look at www.astonshell.com. They have a great product. Stable, easy to use, and quite resource minded. It looks and functions better than Explorer, while managing to do so using less system resouces. I have attached a screenshot of my current desktop.

(Yes, this was written from an MS hosted email account, using an MS based email client *OE*)

In the screenshot the two side bars you see normally remain hidden until moused-over (I dont know if that is a word, but it is now). The bar along the bottom is a desktop manager called altdesk.

Matt

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An excellent, free, multiplatform but virtually unkown text editor is SciTE. Have a look at http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html .
I think it deserves a mention on your pages.

Works on Un*x and Windows. I have been using it for years and found it reliable with some unique features. A major benefit is that it can be used in a multi-system environment.

Regards
SS

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Try Filezilla ( http://filezilla.sf.net) for ftp instead of SmartFTP, I've tried both and the former wins for me. Context ( http://ixedsys.com/context) is a darned good text editor. Don't forget Pegasus Mail either ( http://www.pmail.com), arguably the best email proggy out there. And replace telnet with Putty ( http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/).

And that's just for starters!

Cheers,

Phil

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Great article, I didn't know about this shell replacement. What is missing is the replacement for Windows Explorer. Ontrack had sold his PowerDesk business but its free versions of Powerdesk 4 and 5 are still available from various shareware sites. Just type pd4free or pd5free in Google and you can get them. Also a great replacement for Notepad is Metapad (so-called notepad on steroids, with a lot of advanced handling options available). The link is http://liquidninja.com/metapad/.

Regards,
Marc

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I like your site alot, although alot of the tech stuff goes over my head. I notice you have a pic now and then of very cute AMD girls on the site. I assume someone got these pics from a trade show they went to. Is there a place where all the girls pics are posted? I can't get enough of them.

Thanks.

PS, I searched the message boards and didn't see any mention of them.

Email address supplied

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Subject: Shouldnt they be a tad bit more embarrassed at Intel?

I mean, as far as I know Dlink are going out of 802.11a, and focusing on 802.11b and g. And what have been selling like hotcakes is 802.11g, not 802.11a.

Sure, customer at major large companies might prefer 802.11a, its less known, and have at the time, but not for long, slightly better security. Everyone is also trying to push 802.11a as the solution to have because it doesnt work at the same freq as everything else, it uses 5 GHz instead of 2.4 GHz.

I have seen some conflicts, but in reality things works even if you clobber your house with DECT, 802.11g, yes even bluetooth. It isnt perfect, but its working, and you can use most 802.11b gear with 802.11g.

I know Netgear is trying to push an all in one solution, 802.11b, a and g, though it cost more, and having the right price seems to be very important in WiFi.

Methinks Intel neither will break into big buisnesser, nor will be able to get hold of the SoHo market, and that many laptopmakers will choose to use someones else miniPCI WiFi solution. (And thus lose the right to use the Centrino moniker)

sincerely
Örjan Larsson

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SIMH is/was Bob Supnik's brain child. bob, being the way he is, of course encourages everyone to add on, tweak and so on, but he really kicked a lot of the itnerest in gear because he pursued some of the licensing issues that got the hobbyist side of this going.

The whole history in the area of DEC simulators is peppered with contributions by notables in PDP10, PDP11, or vax history. If you look into the hitory of KLH10 (Ken Harrenstein) or e11 (john wilson - might be the first pdp11 emulator in general use), or TS10 (tim stark's vax/10 emulator, and a real good instigator of dialogue!!), you might find some quiet support by internet industry folks providing help - including XKL with the Toad1!!

bob

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Microsoft aims at trying to make the hardware and software so integrated that they can make it hard for Linux to sell on the new boxes. Gates is worried, as he should be, about a maturing new desktop environment that is FREE and runs on all the same hardware that run Windows.

The ever-monopolist tactics of MS are obvious to all, but they won't be able to get away from the overpriced nature of the bloatware that they offer. People will still be buying cheap Linux boxes and the rest of the world is jumping on the bandwagon. Now that IBM, Oracle and a host of other big players have jumped to Linux, Microsoft better start running to the bathroom before the water hits the floor.

I work for a city government in California, and I am readying a proposal for our City to Migrate to Linux from MS Windows and to OpenOffice.org from MS Office. The proposal should save our cash strapped City as much as 1.6 million in the next few years. The time has come. I hope they seriously consider my proposal.

My self, I prefer Apple and would favor converting to Mac OSX, but that doesn't run on PC hardware, and the City isn't likely to buy all new hardware in these cash strapped times.

I will say, though, the feeling of FREE software is very good. No MS big brother taking stock of which PC in my house the software is installed on, no Intel chip with a serial number that MS can read over the net to keep track of me, no new OS that requires me to genuflect to MS every time I fart.

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Subject: Fuad's visa problems...

Having a lot of invitations from IT companies may hinder rather than help a VISA application. To the INS that reeks of "trying to land a job in the USA".

Being able to document that you're not trying to emigrate to the US is the best way to get a visa, pointing out wife and kids left behind is a good argument.

And yes, the INS sucks. It is bureacrazy in the way only USAnians can implement it. (Yes, I've lived in Italy, USA is worse.)

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Subject: Commercials in page

I've just joined up with the other complainees and I will ban your site from my pc.

Since the reg is unreadable with the current color set, maybe you could recommend another site for me?

Thanks for the good time, I will check now and then if the advertisements have gone.

Maarten

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Subject: Fuad Abazovic

"He was told he wasn't a journalist, didn't "look like a journalist" "

Well at least we now know why Spinola had so much trouble getting into the states last time. I mean hell I wouldn't give Spinola a Visa, and I know the guy. Then again that's probably why I wouldn't. ;)

Would it help at all if I passed on some of the piccies of Spinola last time he was in the US, to show what Inq Journo's do over here. I think not.

Good luck to Fudo. If he's going to have any time in the North East make sure to let us know so we can wet him down properly.

Sid

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emailed here:

consularvienna@state.gov

told them the information from your report had made me a concerned American citizen, and asked them nicely to reconsider. told em i have been reading fuads crap for years (good work fuad, i enjoy my extra megahurtz!) even used proper puctuation and splling and grammer! i willing to bet its good that you didnt post a email for complaints (to them). i doubt they would enjoy a good phlegm llike you do :P

hey dumbfuckers,
why dont you let fuad into the country. you wouldnt know a tech journalist if they spanked you lightly on the ass. du kannst mich mal am Arsch lecken!

damn german reflex still gets caps outa nouns. that one would have felt better

KA_L

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Very droll analysis on the NV80 but he did miss a few details:

New cooling system using a hovercraft fan on each chip with 5.1 surround sound effects (which is swiftly licensed by Dyson for their new range of vacuum cleaners).
Uses Rambus Yellowstone interface to justify $1,200+ price.
Exciting 3Dfx T-Buffer technology for true cinematic effects - incorporated at last!
Portable version supplied with spoilers to prevent laptop liftoff - includes EVTech zinc air battery - detailed at http://www.electric-fuel.com/evtech/index.shtml (the car to carry it is an optional accessory).
Scores in excess of 1,200 on 3DMark03.
Uniquely customisable - circuit board and fan LEDs available in an exciting range of colours!

Regards,
Mark Pavlou

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