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OCZ does 3GB memory kits
OCZ HAD ONE product at Computex that made me sit up and scratch my head, a 3GB memory kit. On top of that was the usual unusual assortment of memory and toys.
Nova already showed you the Fatality RAM, but there are several other new lines as well. The first is called Fortress, and it is a knockoff of the Corsair Survivor line. It was only shown in prototype form, but the similarity was pretty clear. Look for it in 4-32G capacities in the near future.
Prototype Fortress stick
They also had two other new lines, the Spyder, a variant on the small stick idea that is currently in vogue, and Diesel, a low cost part. Diesel looks very similar to the standard OCZ memory stick that has been around for a long time, just a bit thicker.
Next up was the ModXstream Pro PSU. This new one comes in 500, 600 and 700W capacities and the new part of it is the efficiency rating, 80+. It is good to see most PSUs, even the more mainstream wattages, moving to higher efficiencies.
OCZ 3GB memory kit
The next one is something that made me scratch my head enough for it to bleed, a 3GB memory kit. OCZ has them in DIMMs and SO-DIMMs for the 32-bit OS upgrade market. Windows has a broken memory model, and can't see more than 3GB (technically a hair more), so OCZ is filling that niche. No more RMAs with "1GB doesn't work" on it, now you simply don't get that 1GB. It will be interesting to see how it works in the market, but we want to see a bundle with a three-core Phenom and three ATI GPUs just to play with people's heads.
Last up we have the laptops. You know about the OCZ modular laptops, a potentially very interesting idea. There are two new models coming, but I was forbidden from taking pictures of them. The take-home message is that OCZ has many more notebooks coming.
One other thing they are doing is going after the 'whitebook' market, so if you are a reseller looking for notebooks, OCZ is going to be a player there soon. ยต
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3Gb on 2 sticks makes all the sense in the world. Considering that vast numbers of people in the world are sticking with 32-bit OSs like the XP upgrade from Vista.

I'm surprised no one did this before.
can offer decent graphics cards for their customizable notebooks, I'm not interested.

We shouldn't have to buy a $4,000 Sager monstrosity or pay through the nose for Alienware in order to get an 8800 or other top-of-the-line card.

Also, I'd like a 15.4" 1920x1200 screen (like the Lenovo T60s offer), and a pony.
So does this make other memory sizes possible, are these 1.5Gb modules ????

If so would say a 3Gb module be feasible to make ??
3gb makes perfect sense to me. I started dual booting XP x86 and Vista x64 a while back. 2gb wasn't enough for Vista, but I was too pikey to buy another 2gb kit (that and was pretty sure my X-Fi would throw a wobbly). Vista really appreciated the extra memory (pretty good performance boost). XP was no different, but I pretty much expected it with the 2gb process limit. I've since ditched my Corsair and replaced it with 4gb Cellshock. XP actually sees 3.5gb (I was expecting less), but with that much memory 512mb isn't going to make a scrap of difference either way. Other than booting and loading faster, Vista performed the same in games as it did with 3gb. Could be a pretty shrewd move by OCZ...
Er.. in what way? Or do you not understand the limitations of 32bit addressing? You can't use 4gb of memory on a 32bit system because you've got lots of other devices competing for address space.

Try firing up x64 Windows - it's magically 'healed' by 64bit addressing.
My oh my, how stupid is a 3GB kit?

Also note, apparently there are two different dimms uses, so it's a 2GB plus a 1GB dimm in the kit. Dual-channel, as advertised, only works in very limited ways with such a config. In Intel-systems, you get only a so called asynchronous dual-channel, which is basically not much more than single channel. It just means both memory controllers can independently adress the two dimms. However, the bandwidth for contiguous reads is not increased. In AMD K8, dual-channel will not work at all. In Phenom unganged mode, true dual-channel interleaved mode is possible in the range-overlapping region of the two dimms, the second GB of the 2 GB dimm will however only be adressed in single channel mode.

So to sum it up: This is completely useless.
I don't know about those designers, but the rest of us mostly carry our flashdisks and such in places where a round item is actually NOT that comfortable.
I just built a new gaming rig with 32bit Vista for DX10 games or I would have went with XP. Windows includes your video memory in the 4Gb ceiling it has so if you have 4Gb of system memory and a 512mb video card that = 4.5Gb and windows does not like that. Mine was reporting 3.5 until I made a 512mb RAM drive. If you have a 1Gb video card make a 1Gb RAM drive so your total = 4Gb.
Here is copy of the email I sent my friend sorry I can not post the screenshots for proof. 
As you see by the screenshot Vista now reports a full 4Gb of RAM. Before it said I had 3.5Gb of Ram. By taking away some for a Ram-drive it left me with 3.5 Gb of system memory. Add the .5 on the Video card and you have 4Gb. Windows likes it and now reports all that is there. The RAM drive is also is fast enough for Ready-Boost and Windows is happily using it.
The 3GB limit only applies to Windows XP and not Vista if I am not mistaken (although Vistas limit goes up depending on the version). Must mean there is still a reasonably large market for XP machines.
"Windows has a broken memory model, and can't see more than 3GB (technically a hair more), so OCZ is filling that niche"

Its *nothing* to do with Windows. Its to do with 32bit addressing and how most motherboards only have 4gig of addressable space.

Please, for the love of god, go and read up on this. It comes up in articles so often on here and is constantly wrong.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/04/03/photoshop-sheds-windows-bit
Contains plenty of comments with corrections on a similar article.
why OCZ doesn't manufacture mp3 players, like some of its competitors does?

i'm sure OCZ would make the best mp3 players and they would sell more than even ipods.
Charlie, what on earth are you babbling about.
Windows doesn't have a broken memory model.
You have no clue do you?
Even in 64bit, it works the same.
You are confusing addressing space with memory space.
32bit = 4G addressing space = address lines.
A part of this can be memory, another part is BIOS and VGA and other devices.
As usual, your insight in computing is real great.

Next time get it right will you?
Charlie, you're an idiot. The ~3 GB RAM limit has everything to do with a 32-bit environment and nothing to do with Windows. Try punching in 2^32 in your calculator and see what number comes up. No, your calculator is not broken and neither is Windows.

Why do I get the feeling you've never used a 64-bit OS in your life? You're an embarrassment to journalists.
the patch for vista was supposed to fix the memory problem and 32 bit should now see 4gigs. Duh...
On a 32-bit system, the hardware needs to fit in the 4GB memory address space along with RAM.

THIS IS NOT specific to Windows in any way shape or form, period.
http://blogs.msdn.com/hiltonl/archive/2007/04/13/the-3gb-not-4gb-ram-problem.aspx

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us 
This is NOT only limited to Vista as noted in the title. ALL 32-bit OS have this limitation, period.

Stick 4GB RAM in any 32-bit 'those other guys' OS-based PC and write an article about how 'it just plain works' there in that.

You cannot.

Because it will not work there either.

Do your homework before blaming the OS, please.

I can has cheeze burger nau?



That little more than 3GB of physical memory can be addressed is a limitation specific to Windows Home and Pro/Business Editions. This limitation exists because these OSes don't allow PAE to be fully enabled. 32 bit Windows server can address over 4GB so long as PAE compliant drivers are available for all I/O devices with DMA controllers.
Its truly amazing that hardware vendors have to make hardware variants to overcome software problems.

Rather than actually try and get Microsoft to program something properly for a change hardware vendors are changing physical devices to get round those problems.

So its official windows is so crap and broken that its easier to build completely new memory modules that to simply edit the code Windows code.

We all knew windows was very crap but this is unvbelievable.

The best remedy this can be found here:

http://www.ubuntu.com