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Fri Aug 15 2008, 15:09

A FRENCH Jewish watchdog has barked at Youtube over its hosting of a clip showing Jews with a soundtrack of a pre-war anti-Semitic song.

The clip was posted on Youtube and its rival French site Dailymotion. It features more than 150 Jewish politicians, TV stars, journalists, writers, philosophers, actors, singers and comedians. Playing in the background was a song recorded before World War II, called Rebecca's wedding, which describes the guests at a Jewish wedding as dirty, rude and dishonest.

The head of the National Bureau of Vigilance Against Anti-Semitism (BNVCA), Sammy Ghozlan, said the group considers this video, though it names no-one, to be a photographic list of an anti-Semitic nature and therefore liable to criminal prosecution. He has ordered legal eagles to sue both web sites.

Things are a bit sensitive in France at the moment. There have been clashes in the streets between gangs of Jewish and North African Muslim kids. µ

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Zionism and the Gray goverment of Satan

Jews are always the victims, but where are the rest of Israel's slave wives tribes? Did someone miss to tell the whole story or are JEWS some Ashkanazi Russian Orthodox Gang who where once behind the deaths of 100 million Christians.

Lets get something straight, the 12 tribes of ISrael no longer exist, there is no nation, israel is a state made up by a international community of criminals, the same people who backed up Hitler from the US and UK, the same people who want the state of ISrael under ZIONIST ideology, and the same ZIonists who also put jews to death, how did they do it

SIMPLE

if you all did not have such hate in you, they would never be able to promote racism or antisemitism to claim a solution is needed in the first place.
1914 was the first time anyone heard of 6 million jews in camps, did not work, later it worked perfect to complete the zionists idea of criminals having there own state and kicking out the UK.

you threat to go to war, you always lose, you can keep doing it as long as your victims die as we see israel killing in palestine and around the worlds.

posted by : Josh ex Zionist, 09 February 2009 Complain about this comment
Settled

Well... I guess the comments prove the point.

posted by : W.-, 19 August 2008 Complain about this comment
About Jews

When Jews complain, its annoying.
When the world ignores, its ok.

Somehow its okay to link Jews to Israelis? Just because many Israelis are Jews, doesn't make all Jews Israelis. 

Anti-semetic is a coined term for anti-jewish racism, it is generally accepted as meaning such, and arguing it stupid. Its like arguing racism in the US, it usually refers to white/black racism, racism against blacks.

Anyways, anti-semitism is not going to go away. But by being vigilant, the Jews of the world try to prevent pogroms and violence against Jews. Jewish organizations try to help Jews, not specifially Israelis, but the Jews of their respective countries just like Christian organizations help christians. Members of AIPAC have worked and have helped elect black congress men/women, white congress men/women, from both Democractic and Republican parties, within the US.

If anyone has trouble finding positive news about Jews, look up Nobel Lauretes and you'll see how many Jews there are, giving back to the world, helping to progress humanity. Jewish doctors, lawyers, researchers? Alot. So does every other ethnic denomination possess their own. Jews are no better, nor worse, than anyone else (w/e the Old Testament may say). Its like asking about the positive things the Hindi have done? There are alot of doctors in America who are Hindi, so thats nice.

Do all black people have a chip on their shoulder? Are all muslims terrorists? Are all Jews ...? You get the point.

Jews are vigilant and now proactive because of the Holocaust, because of pogroms. When people blame Jews for dwelling on the past, do they realize that history repeats itself? That racism, anti-semitism, etc. etc. is never erradicated. 

Did ethnic cleansing not happen in Kosovo against by the Serbs? Does it matter if genocide is against Jews specifially? No, it does not. Again, that is why Jews are proactive, to try and prevent such travesties.

In the end this is just a rant, because the blind will not see, the deaf will not hear, and the mute will stay quiet even when they bear witness to the crimes committed by one people against another.

posted by : Michael, 19 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Invisable

Whens the last time the Invisible man came down and talked to any of his worshipers?

Fleetwood Mac's "Oh Well" song said it very well many years ago (for you Invisible man followers) "don't ask what I think of you, you might not get the answer you wanted to"

posted by : Vinster, 18 August 2008 Complain about this comment
On Jewish use of french law

I had a very sorry experience very recently with some friends and colleagues jews.
I live in France, and send to a rather large list of relatives some funny thing each and everyday.

Some time ago, i received a nonsense rant targeting our President Sarkozy, but also accusing the whole planet of about everything. The list of "guilty" people was extremely large : corsican, sicilians, politicians, secret services, americans (of course), and while we are at it, jews.

Figuring this was a rather funny article to read, i forwarded it to my list, with a warning introduction, on not taking this content seriously.

I immediately received some angered answered and threads exclusively from jewish-borned members of the list. Well, apparently they were declaring this article to be "anti-semitism propagand" (although jews were mentionned only twice, to be compared with corsicans which were accused 13 times; not to mention the president sarkozy all along). Some talked to me as if i was the hidden son of Hitler, or had redacted the rant myself. Some threatened me to go to court.

Well, in France, being accused of anti-semitism, even without evidence, is the next big thing after getting accused of child-abuse without evidence : your life gets ruined in a single blow, no chance to defend yourself, you will be banned from public life even if proven (many years later) not guilty.

So i had yo make public excuse in order to lessen the attack. Something which apparently pleased them. You say strong-armed ?

So, what could be the conclusion of this ?
Really, i did not even paid attention to this part of the article, given the fact that the prime subject was Mr Sarkozy, and the whole planet was accused. They may not have liked the rant, but how come the attack was so violent? 

I started to wonder how come such a powerfull weapon can be given to a specific part of the community, and how they had the trigger-finger so easy. Certainly, how come Christian faith gets mauled all the time, while a single negative word on jews can get you to court ? (and i should say "Will" get you to court, given how unrestrained they react).

As a final note, they are no longer part of my distribution list. But that's a rift they have created themselves. There was no "anti-whatever" to begin with.

posted by : Editor, 18 August 2008 Complain about this comment
"popular media in France is rather quite baised"

Well that part is indeed true, but as a Frenchman living in France and actually reading/watching the news, I believe that your statement about French news outlets "happily" spouting anti-Jewish statements to be totally wrong.
If anything, the French media has a blanket order to always say nice things about Jews and the Jewish religion or to shut up.
You'll never read anything against Israeli bombardments either, except quotes from Israeli generals or politicians - no opinions or second views are on offer, wondering when everyone will stop furthering the bloodshed.
Sometimes there will be a bit of hand-wringing over loss of life, but it will always be non-specific and applicable to any number of other conflicts (and we have no lack of those).
And let me not forget that any mention of the word "racism" is mandatorily followed by "and anti-semitism", as if anti-semitism was worse than racism. For me, they're one and the same thing, and that thing is bad.
So French media are hardly spewing anti-semitic verbiage in any appreciable quantity.
Unless, of course, you read only the bottom-shelf rags. I don't have the faintest idea what nonsense they spew given that I don't read trash.

posted by : Pascal Monett, 18 August 2008 Complain about this comment
What a grubby load of comments

Wow, the comments show how alive and well anti-Semitism is in this country as well. The story has absolutely nothing to do with Israel, yet the guardian brigade conveniently leave all their carefully crafted liberal pluralistic viewpoints outside the door and engage in rank prejustice.
I notice most of the comments have been moderated away since the weekend.
@Christopher Lee Thomas
“Is it just me who has trouble to find the positive news about Jews?”
Well, if you are always looking for bad news (As you obviously do) then you are always going to find it

posted by : Jon, 18 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Sean and whomever

The JEWS are not a race of people,

they are a religious group.

So when you think about how the UN created a "country" for a religious mob and in doing so displaced the race of people who had lived on that land for centuries - you can understand that conflict.

People may think that the Pope and catholic church has power, in reality the Jews have real power.

Let us remember and take a moment for the other million of non-jews who were also exterminated - how often do we hear that their off-spring are suing governments and corporations for the wrongs of half a century ago.
You have to ask yourself, why are the Jews presently and in the past the most persecuted of all of this planets peoples?

posted by : RogerP, 18 August 2008 Complain about this comment
sympathy vote

all they ever do is whinge. well, everyone has problems - not all people whinge about them.

if they tried being nice to others then more respect for them would steadily grow.

elitism is not a virtue

posted by : bueno estente, 18 August 2008 Complain about this comment
End solution

We do really need an end solution to the Jewish problem that has plauged the world for thousands of years.

The situation is getting intolarable.

The best thing anyone can do is to become friends with the jews and teach them it is not nice to exploit the goy or to kill them for profit.

There should be a world "hug a jew day" since violence and verbal/e-attacks only strengthen their brainwashed beliefes that they are about to get hollowcausted any second if they let their guard down.

Let´s help the jews to escape their miserable state of mass-paranoid psychosis, and all live happy the short time we live on this planet.

posted by : Deepak , 18 August 2008 Complain about this comment
title

are europeans really as racist as these comments would suggest? are you so xenophobic? do you not realize that people are basically the same everywhere?

posted by : spoon, 17 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Oh, now you've gone and done it!

As a Jew, it's good to know that I can rely on my personal control of the one-world-government and the banking and entertainment industries to bankrupt, imprison, and force to watch 'Freddy Got Fingered' those posting in this thread. Hear that? We're going to come down on your sorry goy asses like a ton of Hannukah candles. Then you'll be sorry.

Oh, and you better watch your first-born. I've only got half a gallon of baby blood left in the fridge.

posted by : David W., 17 August 2008 Complain about this comment
go jews!

nothing like suing people for money to fix your image problem.

go jewish community! youre certainly getting rid of old stereotypes.

posted by : hefty, 17 August 2008 Complain about this comment
To Chris L Thomas

A list of Jewish scientists and philosophers by country: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_scientists_and_philosophers

For other stuff, you'll have to use Google... in fact, why haven't you already?

For most of the others - you know, here in Israel we are taught in schools about the history of antisemitism and about the holocaust. I often hear people saying that antisemitism is a thing of the past and that the modern world wouldn't tolerate it (especially after WWII), so teaching about it is a waste of time and money... but this article - and most comments - are proof that it is still relevant. All antisemitism needs is a tolerant ear to start ranting... it's pre-WWII all over again (how surprising).

Jibreel - is that what they teach you in the madrasa? Want to boycott Israel? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU221GA5-u8

For "Goes" - history shows that "criticism" about Jews often leads to violence. That's the main difference. Of course, there are the crusades, and the recent terrorism - mostly from Muslim, but not always. Religious "criticism" is always dangerous. Also, what does Israel have to do with all of this?

posted by : Israeli, 16 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Anti-semetic?

lol - its funny how the jewish community refer to racism (thats what it should be called) as being anti-semetic.

Let me get this right - Arabs are semites too - There nothing Anti-semetic about jewish racism - its just plain jewish racism!!!

And just to bring home the points made about the jews complaining all the time - I agree - After all, how many other religions/races have a National Bureau of Vigilance Against them made up - lol

posted by : zoomee, 16 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Stigmas

Hey guys,
You are all affected by stigmas.
If you say that all Jews do is moan and bitch about things and that they do nothing else - then you are exactly the same "media victom".

You are all invited to come to israel and see that none of the things you mention here is nonexistant.

When you here that the Disk on Key was invented do you here that "a Jew invented tha Disk on Key"?
When the latest Intel processor architecture was develped in Israel does the headlines say "Jew"?

So guys, your knowledge of Jews is ZERO. please come yo Israel and you'll see another modern country with its own taste.

And about the Lebanon comment.
I know everyone love peace and quiet and don't like wars. We do to - but what can you do when a neighboring country (who was a puppet of Syria) attacks your citizans with rockets? They hoped that Israel would stand still (like what you just suggested), but Israel fought back.
I don't think that you're interested to know.. but if you would check, you'll see that the Lebanese targeted CIVILIANS, but the Israelis targeted their militants (and because thay chosse to fight from inside of the villages, civilians also get hurt).

posted by : Yair Levi, 16 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Money...

...I think it's all he needs, poor "victim".

posted by : zheng, 16 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Sus

How come we can criticise Muslims, Christians, Hindus usw but go to prison in many country's when we dare to question the chosen people.

I don't like Generalisations, racism and anti-Semitism but down in the middle east there is no country more racist than Israel with an apartheid regime committing war crimes on a monthly bases shooting kids in the streets for throwing rocks at tanks.

Not to mention the illegal undeclared nuclear missiles Israel has pointed at its neighbours.

I feel deeply sorry for all the prejudice and hate the Jews have suffered over the years but I'm against special treatment for anyone and wish the biased media would start telling the truth.

posted by : Goes, 16 August 2008 Complain about this comment
yet again

Jews never end their whining and claims of victimization. They are the most racist and biggoted yet are always crying about petty crap. They invented communism to whine about people who work harder than them getting better wages. They invented objectivism to whine about life in general.

The reality is, oh Jews, you are a cursed people for your abandoment of the Torah. You are the greediest of people, you strive to make mischeif on the earth, you light the fires for wars and lie incessantly.

The onyl good amongst you are the ones who take action against zionism. Take it from me, if you want to be safe, get out of Palestine and humble yourselves!

posted by : Jibreel, 16 August 2008 Complain about this comment
No, it is not the same person...

...but isn't it disturbing that people like him and me do not get the point of it anymore?

I have nothing against the Jews - the only problem I have right now is to understand why I can't find anything positive about them with news like that all the time.

And as others note the evidence is either missing or they are not what I would call "self critical" and judge them selves for once in a while. Racism is going on in the world all the time - not just in France and I surely could find evidence of Jewish examples in no time as well.

I would rather like to see something positive about the Jews, but so far I failed to spot it as every time I hear about them is one of the examples I previously stated.

posted by : Christopher Lee Thomas, 15 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Leave it at home

You stupid middle easterners, Jews and Muslims both, are welcome to cause trouble in and between your home lands all you want, but don't go bringing your fights into France or any other country.

You want to come to another country? Fine, but leave your ignorant religio-ethinc squabblings behind.

posted by : Bennn, 15 August 2008 Complain about this comment
wow

its great to hear people say that jews are just complaining about nothing in the same breath as they mouth some serious anti-jew nonsense.

i find incredible stuff on youtube, hook-nosed charactures being stuffed into ovens with evil smiles on their faces during the most innocuous searches. they're not suing over that, even though youtube has always been like that.

i think they're suing because it actually uses the faces of real people, in the context that we should go get these real people. and thats at least on the border of libel, which is the border of legal free speech.

free speech covers a nazi rally, which is good (its their right, even if i find them disgusting and stopping them from marching just makes it worse), but if at the rally they say they should kill all the jews (again) then thats illegal, which is also good. if they hold up pictures of a bunch of prominent jews, its not such a stretch to see that as an insitement of violence against those particular jews.

the point is, jews don't sue over everything, i think the threshold is actually really high. i don't know if i support this, but if my picture was on it, i probably would? either way, i can see why people did this.

anyway, being jewish is still at least uncomfortable. take my word for it.

posted by : bradley, 15 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Comment

Comments like that posted by "Chris" and Christopher Thomas" (same person?) are evidence why the lawsuit in question is quite valid and required. 

Rascism in France is nothing new, and as pointed out by professor Richard Landes (see www.theaugeanstables.com, Al-Durrah affair articles) the popular media in France is rather quite baised, and happy to make comments against Jews without evidence, whereas they would otherwise be silent about even the most gross error on thier local part. They even made suit for libel against opponents when it became obvious a crucial bit of evidence was fabricated to put the screws against other news from reporting the deciet carried out with their knowledge.

As for history, also see Edward H. Flannery's book. Many Jews are quite aware of history since members of the last generation (and this generation depending where you live) have been affected.

posted by : Robert S., 15 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Speech crime

So these jews what someone prosectured for posting a video. Who is going to prosecute them for bombing the hell out of Lebanon and no one said a thing yet now they condeming Russian for defending themselves.

It's always a one sided thing with them. For a race that runs Hollywood, the Porn Industry, the banking system etc.. etc.. they sure have alot to moan about when they have more than most?

Ernst Zundel was sentanced to prison for condeming the Holocaust. Since when did we lock someone up for things we say. Oh only if it's against a Jew yet they can make movies that mock christianity all the time and get away with it.

ADL, AIPAC and others are probably more racists than this little youtube video. 

rant over....

posted by : Sean, 15 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Makes you want to see and hear it

Whenever I come across a story of this kind I, and I am sure thousands of others want to find said offensive material and then having seen and heard it are convinced that these people are going out of their way to be despised and disliked and are seeking persecution. They are also the most bigoted self-centered people you are most likely to come across. (experienced)

posted by : Colin, 15 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Is there anything else jews do these days?

Every time you read about Jews they are either suing somebody or stir the heat about past happenings.

I find it very disturbing that everytime you hear about Jews nowadays it is either because:
- there is a new monument or they made someone pay because of things that happened back at a time when most of us did not even live
- Somebody made something (intentionally or non-intentionally) which might be remotely antisemitic
- the ever raging war between them and the other religion which (to bring it back to the mind) started because they suddenly claimed land which was abandoned for so long and meanwhile was occupied by someone else

Is it just me who has trouble to find the positive news about Jews?

posted by : Christopher Lee Thomas, 15 August 2008 Complain about this comment
The sensitive jews

Jews aren't the only people who have been persecuted and killed because of their religion. So stop the eternal bitching. If I want to watch and listen to Nazi songs and post them on a site for others to see as well, that should be possible as well.... damn...

posted by : Chris, 15 August 2008 Complain about this comment
racism in France?!?!

Please note the sarcasm in the comment title.

Coming from Canada, and being of both French and English descent (yes, I have a lot of inner conflict), I honestly find any story involving France and racism pretty much par for the course.

Example: in Quebec, the "we're still a French colony" province in Canada, several years ago, thanks to language laws, shipments of goods to Montreal from New York for the celebration of Hanukkah were turned away, not because they contained illegal material, but because they didn't have French language written on the crates, only English and Hebrew. This is not an exaggeration, this is true. The customs officers could read English just fine, but they felt as proper Frenchmen, they shouldn't accept any material that didn't have French as the predominant language on the crates. 

So I ask... how is this surprising? Xenophobia is sad and pathetic, but it's real in every culture.. just a few seem to embrace it more readily than others.

posted by : Richard Evans, 15 August 2008 Complain about this comment
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