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SP1 may bring new woe to Vista owners

Drivers driving you mad
Thursday, 7 February 2008, 17:40

MICROSOFT'S SP1 upgrade for Vista might cause a few headaches for those who try to install it.

The Vole admitted earlier that Vista SP1 has some driver problems.

And Vista's launch was marred by the amount of ancient or really new hardware that would not run on the beast.

Now it seems that SP1 might also have difficulty in handling some hardware which might have gotten through on the first version.

It is also unclear whether some drivers made for Vista will still work with the tweaked SP1 version.

And if businesses who have been waiting for SP1 before upgrading suddenly switch, then there is going to be a huge demand for drivers that have not received the Vole's Vista blessing.

Although released to manufacturing earlier this week the hefty (550MB) update is still at least six weeks away from its opporunity to worm it's way into users' machines.

To be fair to the Vole, no one reported major troubles through the beta stages so this might be a storm in a teacup.

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Cough...splutter....hack

"...to be fair to the Vole..."

Really? The INQ? To the Vole?

<rubs eyes>

No. It's still there. Weird.

posted by : A. Stunned-Reader, 07 February 2008 Complain about this comment
O_O

Five *cough* hundred *choke* and fifty *splutter* meg?!

Win2000 server install CD is smaller than that!

What exactly are they doing to eat that much space? Sure a Linux Distro can be bigger, but it would also contain the source code and a zillion other apps like OpenOffice!

posted by : Steve, 07 February 2008 Complain about this comment
?drivers?

I had problems with Vista RTM driver wise (geforce 6100) got tired of dealing with it, would blue screen and list nvidia driver as culprit, happened maybe once a month, upgraded for performance reasons to ATI radeon HD2600xt, never again have I had a blue screen or any freeze for that matter. 

When the SP1 RC came around, I grabbed it, took a good 45min to install but I have had no issues with it. (well the radeon drivers have not liked MOHAA untill this last revision but that was equally on XP as on Vista)

My computer has not crashed frozen or anything since I got my new gfx card.
( I do know a sure was to freeze vista though, just run CPU Mark2.1) I had used that as a quick bench to see the performance differce between Vista Beta2 and XP, it worked on Beta 2 and RC1 but crashed RC2 and now RTM and.... well had to see if SP1 fixed it and No it doesnt.

I have updated my radeon drivers probally 4 times since SP1 and have noticed no problems.

posted by : Bryan, 07 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Quit beating around the bush

Is it just me, or are you guys trying to say you don't like Vista?! Criminy just say so, sheesh!!

posted by : Grunchy, 07 February 2008 Complain about this comment
SP1, SP2, SPam

I turned off automatic updates on our XP machines because Microsoft was only downloading new problems and the computers seemed to be spending more time loading updates than doing the work we bought them for. 

At home I'm quite happy with XP minus SP2.

Vista update 550mb -- what's the matter with these idiots that they can't write an operating system without making it bigger all the time.

posted by : fihart, 07 February 2008 Complain about this comment
SP1 size

'Five *cough* hundred *choke* and fifty *splutter* meg?! 

Win2000 server install CD is smaller than that! '

Only the full network administrators SP1 pack will be that big as it includes all languages. The one your PC will download from Windows update will be about 60meg.

posted by : Chris, 07 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Oh the Irony

The real irony about Vista drivers is that Microsoft got so much flak about bad drivers causing BSODs and other problems with the OS that they set up its new driver framework to ensure that the drivers didn't cause havoc. Yet, now they get shit for not being able to keep up with all the obscure hardware that pops up, and the manufacturers can't pass off their crap drivers to Vista like they used to.

posted by : BB, 07 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Vista? what is that?

"...no one reported major troubles..."

Sure, 'cus no one is buying/using the thing to report bugs!!!

I don't know why I even bother commenting, blah!!! ;-)

posted by : Death Adder, 08 February 2008 Complain about this comment
That why Microsoft make download available

Microsoft wait the driver being fixed. When all driver that make Vista Sp1 trouble are gone (with now driver revision / version), than Microsoft will release it to publish.
But as always there is a registry hack to get it NOW :D.

posted by : Hok, 08 February 2008 Complain about this comment
wait for SP2 then!

MS tried to outplay the public by hastily realizing SP1 to make it look like the OS "matured". However, the truth is leaking out - Vista is still broken, and so one must wait for SP2.

Why would anybody sane bother with a system that might give headaches is beyond me ...

posted by : casual_one, 08 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Again total FUD from Nick Farrell

You can't update Vista to SP1 via Windows update if you have incompatibe faulty drivers, WU will block it until you have working drivers.

Hardware vendors have had plenty of time to get their sht together...


posted by : Pratt, 08 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Pots of Gold

"And if businesses who have been waiting for SP1 before upgrading suddenly switch, then there is going to be a huge demand for drivers that have not received the Vole's Vista blessing." ..... Oh dear, what a shame, although it is easily solved with a Lease Payment to Probability Drivers.

Splash the Cash for some Jumping Jack Flash Code XXXX....... 

Crazy Uncle Speak Alien Tongue, Kemo Sabe.

Not if you understand IT, Tonto

posted by : amanfromMars, 08 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Hmm

Problems with getting drivers to work and to find decent drivers eh, reminds me a bit of something starting with a l and ending with an x, something that's a nice and free product but not without its issues.

posted by : W.-, 08 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Oh please !

Can't we just sweep this ginormous turd into the stinking pothole it emerged from and totally ignore everything Vista-related ?
Can Microsoft not just stop the suffering and kill the poor thing for good ?
Vista is not an OS, it's a super-sized hog with a glandular problem. Somebody needs to put an end to this miserable excuse for an operating system - preferably with extreme prejudice.

posted by : Pascal Monett, 08 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Kill Vista. Please.

Will somebody just go ahead and kill Vista and get it over with.

posted by : LisaT, 09 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Vista SP1

Tried to install it on my Toshiba M400 laptop and was glad I backed up the hard drive as it hosed the entire drive due to Intel driver problems.

posted by : Gerard Fertig, 11 February 2008 Complain about this comment
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