Gates dishes dirt on next-gen IE

I am so very sick of internet explorer. I really really really just want it to die. Its a horrible product and causes headaches for everyone, web developers/designer and end users alike. Its far behind other browsers as far as features and maturity; thats rather amazing considering its been around the block several times. There half baked standards support is just ludicrous. As a web developer Ive Explorer a back seat. I used to fill my xhtml and css with IE hacks, but I only do this to a bare minimum these days. Im glad firefox is picking up more and more steam. I rather deal with the 40% of the world that runs FF, Opera, Safari, etc. than the majority IE users. This is especially true because there are so many versions of IE out there that have such stark rendering differences that its even more of a headache... id have to code everything for IE 6 because there is no upgrade path for pre xp computers to 7. And most XP users are still using IE 6. SCREW YOU MS!

You know what is the easy way to let the world know that you are a geek? Just hate MicroSoft. Its that easy.

I sincerely hope that the technical wizards in microflop will bother not to copy anything marked "unstable" cause that means its in beta stage.

I say this because obviously they coded their own version of tabbed browsing...but thats even less stable than "unstable" releases.

As a web developer, you're right, Microsoft is hampering our progress.

The issue right now though is, most of the people are still running IE6, and have no idea how to upgrade or that they even should.

While you might think this is good news for webdevvies, in reality, even if they fix all the problems and make their browser follow standards and release it tomorrow, we'll still be coding separate code for IE for at least another 4 years.

Just the durastic UI change from IE6 to 7 scares a lot of users, the same users too scared to pick up a fox on fire.

Expect this new one to use loads more memory and cause more crashes for people who are into web developing.

I agree above, it's too much work to learn ie's n00bish implementation of css - just give up on the folks using ie.

ie6 is still huge in the market, ie7 has barley taken off looking at web server hits, now ie8 is coming out.... for the love of god, just release some patches to make ie6 and 7 web standards compliant and forget 8.

You know there's trouble when, right after announcing the name of a new version, they admit to adding a bunch of crap nobody wants. I'm used to waiting until after release for MS to admit something like that.

personally i swear some folks just hate IE

IE 7 and IE in general is twice the borswer Firefox is. All firefox does is leak memory like a freaking pig on every machine i have ever seen it on. Type firefox memory leak into google, this has been in firefox since before version 1.0 and this issue is still not fixed in the upcoming firefox 3.0

microsoft hindering web development!? are you out of your mind

Ever hear of Microsoft Silverlight? is something of pure brilliance and its beats the heck out of flash in java in terms of performance, load times, and many other features

im sorry, but i have never had a problem with any website in IE..on the flip side over half the web don't display properly in firefox

and lastly..Microsoft is still supporting IE 6 heck even IE 5 on Windows 2000 is still activly supported, firefox allready dropped support for Firefox1.5 which many still use

IE is fine, quit whining.


For god sake, just kill IE and fire the dev team.

IE7 took 5 freaking years to be delivered and in the end, it's still crap.

It is evident that new hardware is on wings that is capable of much more complex redundancies.
IT IS ULTIE TIME, force out Loser XP Crowd with Ultie Complex NT6 IE8.
Machines are anxiously awaiting that complexity.
thomas s von drashek

Christ on a bike, not another half arsed version of internet explorer. 

Stick with FF and you wont go wrong. It's about time microsoft stopped messing around with their half arsed perma-beta projects and developed something credible that does exactly what everyone wants for once that is stable and wont get screwed over every five minutes by some script kiddy flagellating himself in his bedroom.

Funny to hear all the criticisms, especially from developers. If your type didn't try to take HTML and HTTP and bastardize it into something it was never, ever meant to be or envisioned to be, we wouldn't have such disparity in the software that renders it.

So you take a half a dozen monkeys and teach them all to drive. Name one monkey AIEEEE! (get it? haha), one Mozilla, one Opera, etc. Then let them out on a public highway and discover that one monkey gets into accidents, one monkey collides with other vehicles intentionally, one can't take the same route from one day to the next, and so on. Well of course that's what ya' got, you tried to train monkeys! Silly developers, either go back to HTML's dark ages or get rid of it entirely and start anew.

I especially hate Microsoft's ClearType technology that suppose to make text look better by anti-aliasing them with colored pixels on the edge - supposedly making them look good from afar.

All it does for me is make text really muddy and it's like my screen's dirty, or there's a film of dust on my monitor that I can't wipe off...

Really awful.

About Firefox memory leak, I think I noticed it after I upgraded from 1.x to 2.x; and Firefox is becoming focused on more features without fixing known problems... 

oh well if it goes bad the community would just fork a stable version and make something better.

I thought Sirbrent spoke rather kindly of them. Anyone who hasn't gone from programming in a well defined, standards compliant language (Java,C/C++,etc.) on a well set up OS (unix variant, and I'm sure other obscure ones) to trying to write an advanced, html based web application that will run correctly on IE6 has no right to speak otherwise.

There is no curse in elvish, entish or the tongues of men for this treachery!