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Murderer leaves clues for forum users

SomethingAwful forums dig for evidence
Wednesday, 26 September 2007, 16:41

SHOOTINGS ARE sadly par for the course in the States, but this one - a twisted jealousy-come-"revenge" double homicide - has bizarre ties with popular comedy website Something Awful.

The Orlando Sentinel posted a story about a double homicide. Something Awful user "West " knew one of the victims in question and so posted a thread on the forums about losing one of his co-workers to the shooting. It turned out that a fair few users on the site knew one of the victims, and so internet detectives went to work.

What they uncovered was shocking and disturbing, finding an open directory on the murderer's - forum user Bomber166, now permanently banned for murder - website full of material seemingly relating to the killings. Some suspect that the user stuck the material online for the website's members to find.

One of the directories hosted pictures of one of the victims and a chatlog titled "tiffany-whore.html," as well as an address. Further delving into the site, a chatlog was discovered that accused the murderer, Allred, of being violent towards women. Even more disturbingly, a picture was unearthed which showed a photo of one of the victims being used as target practice.

Albrot reveals on page seven of the thread that victim Tiffany and murderer Allred had a turbulent year long relationship. He says that Allred showed up to a party where his then-girlfriend Tiffany and mutual-friend and fellow victim Ruschak were attending. Allred was drunk and acting violently, at one point allegedly hitting a girl in the chest with a rock. Three days later, Allred bought a pistol, pictures of which are uploaded on his site.

This isn't the first time a member of Something Awful has committed a murder, with a mentally disturbed user asking the gun forum what type of buckshot was best to buy for killing someone before a shooting a few days later.

Forum users are sending in unearthed details to the local police as they find them. µ

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A call needs to be made

Someone needs to call that anti-game lunatic lawyer and get him out of the bayous and into something actually useful.
It would seem that, far from being games that encourage violence, tongue-in-cheek, resolutely weird websites do a lot more to incite mentally unstable DNA residues to act upon their impulses.
I don't know what happened in this Nth shooting event, but posting comments with obvious murderous intent is something the FBI should be looking into, isn't it ?

posted by : Pascal Monett, 27 September 2007 Complain about this comment
Hint, hint

I like how you're implying that shootings AREN'T common anywhere but the U.S. A little shot at the 2nd Amendment, eh? Think about this: violent crime rates, regardless of the method, are still higher in the U.K. per capita than the U.S. Guns increase the rate of shootings the same way elephants increase the rate of tramplings.

Plus, from a self-defence perspective, knowing the most effective buck-shot to use on a human target hardly pre-qualifies the person asking as mentally disturbed... but thanks anyway for drawing that line for us.

posted by : Russell, 27 September 2007 Complain about this comment
wow, what terrible writing

This article is, in terms of reporting, an utter piece of s&^*. You should have just posted a relevant link to the SA thread and left it at that. Take a writing course, please.

posted by : D. Greene, 27 September 2007 Complain about this comment
Uhm

"Think about this: violent crime rates, regardless of the method, are still higher in the U.K. per capita than the U.S. Guns increase the rate of shootings the same way elephants increase the rate of tramplings"

Yeah but the difference is in the UK it's 'handbags' on a Saturday night vs. people shooting each other.

Do we get shootings in the UK? Well sure, but they're a rare occurance and anybody carrying a gun is a known threat to society and the police and they can be dealt with according, as opposed to potentially an innocent person.

I love the way you tried to use statistics to distort the truth though, very impressive.

posted by : streaky, 27 September 2007 Complain about this comment
Par for the course, for INQ reporting

Who ever would have guessed that The INQ would take a shot at American society (ohhh, so many gun deaths), while posting from the country with one of the highest violent crime rates in the world? 

Okay, you're more likely to be shot in the US if you are attacked. But you are much more likely to be attacked in the first place in the UK, along with being raped and then stabbed to death after that. 


posted by : outofstep, 27 September 2007 Complain about this comment
Just look at the homicide rate per 100,000 inhabitants per year.

UK: 2.3
USA: 5.9
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rate#2000s

The USA actually ranks worse than many South American and African countries. 
But hey- buy a gun! land of the free!

posted by : moonstruck, 28 September 2007 Complain about this comment
looking at the homicide rate per 100,000 inhabitants per year helps

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rate#2000s

UK: 2.3
USA: 5.9

The USA actually ranks worse than many South American and African countries. 
But hey- buy a gun! land of the free!

posted by : moOnsTrucK!, 28 September 2007 Complain about this comment
We are e-people

Nowadays, there are a lot of ways we can seek for advices, informations, clues, tips, whatever we want to know from the internet.
I don't feel this is a surprise. Perhaps the policeman should get involve more on the forums for seeking advices to break the criminal....

posted by : diggmediggyou, 28 September 2007 Complain about this comment
Sheeple...

My point (which safely flew over your head) is that people are still murdered or maimed in the UK regardless of the weapon used. Taking guns away doesn't make violent crime go away, it just disarms the victims and makes the criminal's job easier.

But, I guess when you've followed the herd long enough it's just easier to remain a mere sheep.

posted by : Russell, 28 September 2007 Complain about this comment
Re: Uhm

Uhm
"Think about this: violent crime rates, regardless of the method, are still higher in the U.K. per capita than the U.S. Guns increase the rate of shootings the same way elephants increase the rate of tramplings"

Yeah but the difference is in the UK it's 'handbags' on a Saturday night vs. people shooting each other.

Do we get shootings in the UK? Well sure, but they're a rare occurance and anybody carrying a gun is a known threat to society and the police and they can be dealt with according, as opposed to potentially an innocent person.

I love the way you tried to use statistics to distort the truth though, very impressive.
posted by : streaky, 27 September 2007 
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How do you explain the fact that gun violence has skyrocketted (up 40%) since you guys "banned" guns over in the UK? Or the fact that violent crime rates went up as well?

You can't defend anti-rights, anti-gun positions using statistics or logical arguments. Go ahead and be intellectually dishonest and use moronic statistics thought up by the Brady Campaign or VPC, but you're not fooling anybody except the ignorant people that already believe your bullshit.

Now go ahead and give me your strawmans, appeals to authority/fear/empathy, and other logical fallacies, as that's all you people are good at doing.

posted by : Dude, 28 September 2007 Complain about this comment
Honestly..

Seriously, I'm a "Yank" as you “Blokes” would incur. But if I remember correctly statistics can be used to prove or disprove any point of opposition (Lets put that topic to rest now). So I'm not here to defend or offend anyone but here we are on an article that details a killing based off of threads on another forum. And right here right now we hate each other starting the same type of immature activities that led to a double homicide. So yes my view on this article is that policing on the internet with the right to discriminate against sites that are rather obvious with their intent and content should be monitored and investigated not only more by the RedWhite&Blue but the UKers and everyone else, after all the World Wide Wobble is a nationwide network that anyone can at any time put information that they please anywhere anyhow. Pardon my grammar and point of view; after all I was born in the USA where we are all underage, uneducated, lunatic gun toting fools, but please hear me when I say, you pose no threat to me, after all your vote doesn’t count here, 

posted by : P!NG, 01 October 2007 Complain about this comment
Dude...

If all you can resort to is ad hominem attacks, I don't think you're in a position to lecture anyone.

posted by : Tired, 02 October 2007 Complain about this comment
Or maybe the other way around?

I know this is old news, but I found it today, so I'll comment today.

Having two killers go to the same website and blaming the website makes as much sense as two killers who happened to go to the same bar and blaming the bar. At best, you may be able to prove a commonality among the senses of humor among murderers, but I highly doubt it. You took a lambasting for bad writing, but it should have been for bad logic.

posted by : Piddlefish, 03 January 2008 Complain about this comment
Brilliant reporting

I wandered upon this article from Something Awful's Wikipedia entry. What leapt out at me was 'jealousy-come-"revenge"'. Don't newspapers have literate reporters and editors anymore? Or does "cum" raise a red flag as something that sounds dirty?

posted by : B. Tipton, 08 September 2008 Complain about this comment
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