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Aged OS shuffles off clutching P45
Monday, 30 June 2008, 15:30

IT'S THE END OF AN ERA. Windows XP has left the building. Today is the last day the Redmond Massive will be sending out its veteran operating system to OEMs around the world. Unless you're the likes of Dell or HP, that is.

Upstaged by the flashy upstart in a Versace three-piece that is Vista, the old workhorse is collecting its gold watch and clearing its desk for the last time today. And there will be nary a dry eye in the house.

Its true that XP's birth was difficult, and that teenage tantrums and incompatibility ishoos made each and every one of us set up a forehead/monitor interface at one point or another. But we got over its little foibles and quirks. We upgraded, patched and tinkered. We installed and uninstalled driver after driver, after driver. We cowered in horror as every security flaw was unearthed, and hastily fixed... and then waited for the next fatal leak to spring.

We laughed, we cried, we threw our USB devices against the wall, but like all difficult relationships, in the end we grew to love the cause of our torment and anguish.

And now, although some of us have moved on to pastures new, have found a new, younger, brighter, prettier distraction, we can't help thinking that we are leaving a better time. A simpler time. A time when things actually worked.

Farewell then XP. It is better to have loved and lost all of your data to a malicious virus, than to never have been able to create any data at all.

Unless... ยต

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XP source?

How I'd love to get that XP source code and continue the developement to make it just a little more perfect. I'd remove some little tools that are unnecessary and make the installation process a lot faster. Sell the licenses with a big discount, when someone needs 2 oder more licenses and other things like that - it would just make it easier for everyone. Who would not like to see XP beeing developed alongside Vista? Of course, some day Vista might be as stable and pleasing to use as XP and a switch would not be that distracting...But until then, please let us keep our working OS!

posted by : wlc, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
Keep crying

And why can't you do all this crying with Vista? Your explanation makes no sense. Everyone could have just stayed in win98 then to avoid XP hassle, but that would have been pretty pointless as is staying with XP.

Not to mention the fact that my Vista works better than XP or any Windows I've ever used.

posted by : az, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
ALL Those TS Years.

When Nat SEC ACT expired, Personal Computing Started Up as Advertised Retail item & Result reminded Myself of 19th Century Simpson Sears Catalog. 
When Diplomat s No Longer included as Total Bogus in 1992 Supreme court(US) Ruling: Admr. Gracie Departed, Whom Wanted To Tie Free World Up With Fortra N. 
Wave Was Beginning To Form & At Long Last Infie '95 Could LEGALLY HIT. Computers sold Like Panacakian, Everyone Needed three. Then Long Road to Hardware Developement Started, Reasonable ISP/Baud(Freeor$), & ooO/s Could start Shaveing Off Broken Glassshrouds from Past into Crystal.

SP2 Mabe XP Itself. Finally Seezer with Wing. Now Ultie anticapates Brighter Tomorrow.

Old Song: Don't Mess With Bill.
New Song:We Need Intel

d'Emballmer may Ruin Microsoft, just To End Publics Computing Era. Digital Com can: Start WAR, Ruin Nation, Destroy Banking, Hunt Down Familes Mercilessly. Yet What Actual Improvements Does it, in itself, Make?FEW!.

Domian of: Proud & Arogent & Hateful. 
Someday? 30 Gb DVD Disc may take Intels Forecasted 200Gb/s CPU Bandwidth to New High Bloat of Quality, I Hope So. XP, Your Time Was Now. Save Your Tackle.Prepare for even Deeper Penetrations by Enemy.YEAH!

Prophet Fogging: US Congress Home Computer Extermination Act of 2020 circa ?d'Emballmers Help.
Drashek 

posted by : Fifieian., 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
Interesting question/challenge for MS

I wonder what the response would be if at every opportunity journalists asked MS why they didn't simply put Xp and Vista up against each other to see which is more popular?

'Course we all know the likely result of such a situation, look at the Business sector, Vista take up is woefully low, and they *have* had the choice. Consumers haven't. One would imagine that a business would pay attention to the fact that customers prefer one of their other products instead of constantly pushing the dead dog out the door and claiming it's Lassie reborn.

Ah well, at least it may hasten the end of MS and their monopoly.

posted by : Gordon, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
pirate bay this way sir !!

yippeeeeeeee, no more WGA perhaps ?? for any peeps that had a moral problem about piracy, M$ will have tipped lots of um to the dark side, freud called it "justification" O_o
the pirates are gonna have a ball, i bet theyre working a 3 shift work pattern, 24/7 as we speak, supply and demand dont ya know lol.
what about updates you might ask, well its business as usual here :- http://tinyurl.com/klsc3
plus the fact, that now, the hackers have a new 'holy grail' namely the broken OS VISTA, pfffffffffft XP's no challenge/fun to the peeps at the cutting edge of their vocation :O)

our friend drashek put it very elogantly and succinctly waaaaaaaay back in january.
quote :-
Ultie Difference in Their Face.
In Way Press Has Made Victim of Naivee Fuddie Duddies, Whom Want Salesperson to Dare to Ultienize Sales Routine, NOT Them Deciding. When YOU Don't Know, Theres FUD. 

Yet This isn't BAD, it gives Choice to See Both. Once You Ultie, You Never Go Back. However, It is BESt To Load Ultimate Completely seperate, NO XP on System At All. You Could Corrupt Ultie. 

Then question of OLD equipment, XP equipment, of course won't Work on Ultie Partition, In FACT, It will break computer to Mix two. If you have XP Computer Already, Migrate all that equipment with NO Vista Software Support, to new/old XP machine. Yet if you really want Vista Ultimate, why pay premium to have both, especially if you can only play one. Its GOOD Learning Experience Offered. Yet I Know You Will Choose Ultimate on Face Value. If You Have Lot of XP Hardware & Software, Why Change At All. 
Remember, DON'T MIX XP INTO VISTA. 
Signed:PHYSICIAN THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK M.D.
posted by : Ultie_Tom, 16 January 2008

well said Doc :O) i couldnt agree more O_o

posted by : psychochief, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
XP this, XP that, I think I saw a putty tat.

"Ah well, at least it may hasten the end of MS and their monopoly."

UNLIKELY.

the only people who give a crap about OS's and RAM and the like are IT's or hobbyists. Most people are simply happy if their computer turns on. Most people are more afraid of their computer than they are interested in it's performance.

posted by : MSFT not going anywhere, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
@az - keeping the dream alive

I did stay with Windows 98SE until well after SP1 for XP. Mostly because my games weren't compatible.
I had the MSDN copy available so it wouldn't have even cost me any more money.

I also resisted upgrading my NT servers to Windows 2000 as long as I possibly could because NT had known tools and known limitations.

Your logic is what most people are saying about Vista, "Wait and see."

It will get there eventually. But at the moment, more people prefer to avoid the hassle.

posted by : Jason, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
cry cry

stay with us windows 98... windows xp is horrible... and 4 years later... the same with vista.

yawn.

vista rulez. no problems. just as fast or faster then xp.

posted by : germanjulian, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
I'ts never gonna happen but....

I would love to see the scenario whereby when a company like the Vole brings about the end-of-life to a product, said product's patents become null and they enter the public domain. That would surely give pause to ending Win XP.

posted by : JustADreamer, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
@ physiochief

what were you smoking dude? i need some of that sheeeeet!

posted by : Mogli, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
rubbish.

@germanjulian

Simply not true, most of us hated win98 - It was about as stable as a jar of nitroglycerine on a roller-coaster. Not to mention that it was just a crap hodgepodge OS in the first place, as much DOS as it was windows kernel.

No no, XP was the promised land, it was the NT kernel that we all loved at work brought to the home PC!! ok, there were teething problems to start out, not least with games and some of the older hardware but it was WORTH IT. Whats more it was understandable and forgiveable because the change from win98 to XP was massive! its an almost entirely different platform. 
Vista on the other hand is just a remix of XP with things randomly broken just for the hell of it.

Now Vista is an entirely different proposition, we are expected to give up a perfectly functional modern OS that does everything we need. And we're expected to give this up for a pig with lipstick that adds no value to the windows platform. 

posted by : dave, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
just wait till the new windows comes out

well for intense 3d games...Vista has a long way to go..it woes play them but not at the high settings that XP can play them......other vthan that Vista is OK.....nothing special....just OK.....maybe when software and hardware makers utilize the 64 bit bapabilities it may turn out to be something more than OK...but for now I will Keep XP on my gaming rig and Vista on my basic internet rig.....it does help to disable all that security crap in Vista...honestly I wish game makers would cater to Mac...I would jump the PC ship in a heartbeat.

Now....the next version of windows makes no sense to me at all...touch screen..who in the hell wants that.

posted by : John, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
Great!!

My vista ran in and saved me from a burning building! also it cleared me of charges of terrorism at a quantanmo bay trial!! it's perfect.

(Oh uhm, do I still get the usual bonuses for this stuff now gates stepped down?)

posted by : W.-, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
it's just the same

I love those people that are fooling them selves that "it's just the same"

they just got older and maybe lost a train or two and they feel safer by just asuming is just the same...

welll... sleep well...

posted by : asra'el, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
it's just the same

I love those people that are fooling them selves that "it's just the same"

they just got older and maybe lost a train or two and they feel safer by just asuming is just the same...

welll... sleep well...

posted by : asra'el, 30 June 2008 Complain about this comment
Caught off guard again!

So much for your anti-Drashek add-on.

My head's still spinning, and I only read the first paragraph of his post.

Simple rule:
Don't read the Inq until you've had your first morning cuppa.
When will I learn.

posted by : EbonGG, 01 July 2008 Complain about this comment
SE7EN (Vista SP2)

vista rulez. no problems. just as fast or faster then xp. 
vista rulez. no problems. just as fast or faster then xp. 
vista rulez. no problems. just as fast or faster then xp. 
vista rulez. no problems. just as fast or faster then xp. 


lol

Week after week

vista rulez. no problems. just as fast or faster then xp. 
vista rulez. no problems. just as fast or faster then xp. 
vista rulez. no problems. just as fast or faster then xp. 
vista rulez. no problems. just as fast or faster then xp. 
vista rulez. no problems. just as fast or faster then xp. 

YES It's TRUE!

LOL

posted by : Dare, 01 July 2008 Complain about this comment
Remnant brain damage from rubber CeMeNt?

I have run vista on 4 + systems all of which pretty freakin good(all core2duo with 2+gb 800+mhz and better) and vista still can't play mp3's w/o stuttering while typing in Word... Nor will they talk to any of 6 different printers that were "vista compatible"... Not to mention one of the compies randomly likes to eat files when Vista is on it... Moving one's mouse should not make cpu usage jump to 20-40%... on XP they register 0-1%... Never really had any issues with XP... firewall anyone?... i hopped on the xp bandwagon like 6-12 months after release so i missed most of the driver issues mostly because of game incompatibility (and cheap bosses)XD
Screw Vista... Loving XP, waiting on Win7 or diving back into linux...

posted by : SonicP, 01 July 2008 Complain about this comment
What's The Big Deal?

Download SP3, download all the patches and updates not included in SP3 as they're released, then just just sit back and wait for God.

Once XP's real replacement is mainstream the malware writes will concentrate on it. Well, here's hoping they do anyway. :+)

Be sure and keep your data backed up now, 'cause when bad sheet does get to your XP you'll need to wipe the drive and rebuild maybe. And since XP SP3 installs in about twenty minutes (on my old boxes) that's no big deal. Kinda refreshing really to start over.

I do love a narrow view of reality that works for me.

posted by : Doug Glass, 01 July 2008 Complain about this comment
Don't knock Win98!

AZ may be happy with his latest and greatest but I'm still trying to get my wife off her Win98. She's not an engineer but she definitely subscribes to the notion that "if it works, don't screw with it". If I did upgrade her to Vista (which would require a new system, of course) what would it give her?

Changing stuff just for the sake of changing stuff is pointless. You've got to have a reason. What, exactly, is the reason why we have to throw our computers away and buy new ones so we can do exactly the same tasks as we've always done at the speed we've always done them?

posted by : Martin, 01 July 2008 Complain about this comment
Loyal to the end...

I'am going to wait until SP4 for Vista before leaving Win XP or atleast Windows 7...whatever
comes first.

posted by : Bill Goats, 01 July 2008 Complain about this comment
@ az

"Everyone could have just stayed in win98 then to avoid XP hassle, but that would have been pretty pointless as is staying with XP". 

Your analogy is (as they say nowadays) "flawed". Win98 was written entirely by Microsoft, and was therefore a load of rubbish. But XP - like all the OS following NT - is layered on a VMS infrastructure that makes it reasonably robust and usable - even if the Windows GUI still causes it to lock up and crash occasionally.

posted by : Tom Welsh, 01 July 2008 Complain about this comment
Gone, but not even close to forgotten.

Took me 3 months to realise that beta 2600 wasnt infact a beta.

That sums up my experience with XP.
Basically smooth sailing from first install. Even on the original box that 2k would die fortnightly for no reason.
I believe I have only reinstalled it on my main pc around 4 times. Not bad for nearing 7 years.

In that time the hardware changed from a dual celeron, to athlon xp, to athlon 64 and several iterations in between.
From a gf2mx, to gf3 to 9800 to 6800.
From 40gb hdd to 120, 200, 250.
256mb of ram to 1gb to 2gb.

With a simple trick, reinstalls were avoided when the hardware changed.

The only times it was needed was when hdd's died, I killed the partition irrecoverably, ATI drivers being a pain, or I completely mangled the registry and couldnt be bothered fixing it.

I will continue to use it, my reliable old workhorse until something percievably better arrives.

The king is dead!
Long live the king!

posted by : myne, 01 July 2008 Complain about this comment
When it's done

When Vista is not bloat ware, when I can get it under 200MB (XP can be taken under 100MB) at idle. I will think about it. 
Vista was made to drive hardwares sales that were faltering in the PC market. I recall the MS and other channel meetings "This is our chance to get big sales and service" which turned out how to get angry/disappointed customers. Give me a "lean" version and let me add in what I want. I say no to bloat ware, no to Vista. All we really need is more game support on Linux and MS is out of the home pc.

posted by : Vinster, 01 July 2008 Complain about this comment
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