Teenage clicks all through the night

so what, they never had tape2tape or pirate videos when he was growing up in ireland?

why do poeple think this is new?

remember "home taping is killing (corporate) music" 

ever since the 1970s and the introduction of compact cassettes and tape recorders this has been going on.

first radio & records to tape (youngsters will have to ask their parents about this)

then computer games - tape to tape, disk to disk

it goes on and on upto napster and P2P

also photocopying machines.... copyright theft was rife "offline" until home production became easier.

cost/ease/desirability have always been a fashion

if you take this back far enought the pottery industry of europe was born out of the need to copy high quality chinese porcelain ceramics (oh, how the irony and tables turn)

painters even in the renaissance had there work or stly copied by others, 

and the victorian pillage the ideas and rights of the world

so
a) why are people still moaing
b) why is their change strategy
c) how is this news?


So he's surprised people still copy and lend out albums even though tapedecks, walkmen and 8-tracks aren't around anymore?

Woowee... what a revelation. No news there. He's probably just peeved no one listens to the trite he made back then. Just like Elton John. Oh.

So how much of that 95% is people copying music from their CDs to an MP3 player, or making a tape to play in the car, or their own "Greatest Hits" disc because the label's version is half crap so they would have enough material for a "greatest hits vol. 2".

Of course it's a given that the record labels should receive payment for all of the above.

The only "people" who think it is new are the high-level managers with ludicrous salaries who discover that their bonuses are going to be a bit less fat this year because of it.
So they bang the piracy drum instead of justifying their outlandish salaries and try to think of something to do about it.

"The organisations biggest concern was the speed at which offline copying could take place"

maybe instead of going after file sharer's now they will try to sue hardwaremanufacturers for making data transfers too fast

no actually i don't remember that...wait I was born in 89.....

anyhow as long as I have been around it went from copying cds... to dvds and game disc...
basically every new medium eventually has a way to be copied and pirated....
But we must remember that copying is not the same thing as pirating it only makes it easier.


On the same note since most cds are made with an expected life of 5 years not allowing people to copy their cds is a ripoff

I personally do not play any original cds I make copies put the originals back in the case and store them on the shelf...then I take the copies with me...if the copy dies big whoop there goes 30cents not 20 bucks.

I still do not see how any of this is !NEWS!
really theft has been going from the beginning of time...or at least pretty close to it.

95% huh? WOW!!!!!

Sems he was more amazed at the speed. With our old tape decks and copying records we did so in real time. We didn't get to transfer our entire 200 album collection to our friends and the same in return in under an hour.

When I first purchased The Beatles "White Album", the censored U.S. version I paid $5.95 for it. Now that was a fair amount of money in 1972 or so. But to tape that album then would cost about $2.00 for the Cassette tape and the quality was not that good the pops and clicks were still there. 8 tracks were looked at little better than 45's. The bottom line was that it wasn't really cost effective to record lp's. Unless you were making a compilation tape for your girlfriend or something.

The simple truth is the record companies costs have dropped while all along they've been raising salaries and music prices. They are no longer cutting mothers, pressing vinyl and printing covers and sleeves. The cost of a CD, and case including printing is less than $1.00 the rest is royalties and profit. 

Do musicians really need the record companies? No. But to get airplay they do. There outa be a law against the monopolistic symbiotic relationship between TV, radio and the record companies.

I purchase independent labels and I don't copy my music as I respect the band that goes it alone without the RIAA parasite sucking the lifeblood out of the industry. BUT I have my music on several harddrives and SD cards and I burn CD's for use in the car because that is fair use and I save my originals.

But at $15-$20 a CD for todays overproduced boyband or hot little strumpet lipsyncing some else's remixed and sampled "cough" music?

Rip-ON. 





I guess a good heart these days is hard to find ...

I suspect a lot of this problem is due to those helpful URLs that aquire CD information for you as you load a CD into your hard drive. I've long suspected that they're really just collecting information, and it doesn't take much imagination to see a corporate exec taking this information, multiplying it by some fudge factor and coming out with "everyone is copying music 24/7".

They're not. Its like the fantasy that "every music player has $750 worth of music on it". It assumes the largest possible storage capacity, the playing being full and all tracks being paid for a t retail CD prices. (In the case of my MP3 player its got about $30 on -- but I've got the CDs, so its really got zilch on it.)

The other fantasy is that there's all this money out there to be harvested.

Before there was recording people would do such illegal things as sing songs other people made AT HOME, OMG the humanity of it all..
Think of the trillions of dollars the industry lost! (assuming every performance at home equals 1 million USD)
And I'm not even counting the millions lost by people illegally recalling a song in their mind, all without paying.

"For somebody who has spent 30 years in the music industry"....

Okay, maybe you have, but what new stuff have you done in the past 20 of those?!

Great Header!

Am I the only one old enough to notice?

is delusional. It is no more reason to take their heeds seriously than those of some locked up madman.

In the 80s blank cassettes carried a levy imposed by the Music industry in the uk, to compensate artists for home taping. So in effect why not copy, you've paid for the priviledge in the blank media "tax" already...so if you paid for it, you need to get your monies worth.

In the early 80's before copying could really be done at home without quality loss, albums were between £5 and £10, a HUGE amount when you consider they are that much now nearly 30 years later. Copying leads to regulation of pricing and therefore its a good thing for consumer.

As for "lending albums to friends",,,, the phrase "meanwhile back on planet earth" springs to mind.

Shock horror !!! the thought police from the MPAA and BMR will come and arrest you if you so much as think of lending an album to a friend. Next they will be trying to get royalties from people on trains overhearing music on someone else's ipod.

I can see it now, they will be imposing a levy on train tickets in case you hear someone elses music, so on great western it will be "500 million pounds for the ticket, plus another 10 pounds for the overheard music tax to help struggling artists to afford their second rolls royce and avoid the poverty of not being able to have caviar and champagne for breakfast everyday - oh the shame and embarrassment of not having a champagne breakfast. I can barely contain myself at such a horrifying predicament.