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Nvidia fights back against AMD with fresh GPUs

Analysis There's no clear winner yet
Fri Feb 04 2011, 17:40

AMD'S GPU DIVISION, that is, ATI, led the performance race against Nvidia for most of 2009 and at least the first half of 2010. If you count the dual GPU cards as one unit, it still leads now with the year-old HD5970 and is expected to continue to do so with the upcoming HD6990 next month.

However, on the per-GPU die scale, Nvidia finally got rid of most of the yield and performance issues it had with Fermi, and took over the DirectX 11 graphics performance crown at the very high end with its GF110 die, or Geforce GTX580, and the generic high end with its GF114 die, or GTX560 Ti cards.

Of course, the lead comes at the cost of somewhat large chips, where even the smaller GF114 die is within five per cent of the size of the Cayman die in the HD6970, but nevertheless it does move AMD to provide an HD6950 1GB card with similar performance and price. On the other hand, there are also 2GB versions of the GTX560 Ti availale from vendors like Gainward, as well as, at the high end, a $520 souped-up 3GB version of the GTX580, again from Gainward, to counter the overclocked versions of the HD6970 2GB Radeon.

So, let's look at it from several points of view. First, the performance. Absolute per-GPU chip performance and absolute per-card performance in a variety of key benchmarks, biased or not, would be a good starting metric. For the first one, as of now, the GTX580 holds that place in the majority of DX11 graphics benchmarks, but not the double precision (DP) floating-point (FP) compute benchmarks. Why? Well, Nvidia didn't enable full DP FP performance on the Geforce parts, in order to protect its highly priced professional Tesla compute cards, while AMD left the full speed DP FP enabled in the HD6900 series.

So, it's 1.5 TFLOPS single precision FP and about 150 GFLOPs DP FP on the Nvidia GPUs versus 3 TFLOPs single precision FP and 750 GFLOPs DP FP on the AMD GPUs. That's one angle that you won't find in 3Dmark or Heaven benches, but will be important for new compute application uses of GPUs.

From the per-card performance point of view, the AMD HD6990, with roughly 70 per cent more performance than the HD6970 using the slightly clocked-down dual GPU configuration, should keep the title for AMD overall. Vendors like Asus and Sapphire will likely release full-speed overclocked versions of that card fairly quickly, as Nvidia and AMD now both seemingly allow OEMs to launch customised versions almost on the heels of their reference cards' announcement dates.

Using a two-GPU card to beat the one-GPU one might not sound like an apples-to-apples comparison, however AMD is able to achieve that. Even though we saw some prototype PCBs for possible dual GF104/114 cards, and Asus also attempted to create a truly monstruous dual GF100/110 card in its MARS series, with three 8-pin connectors, the existence of a dual Fermi GPU in the open market is still just speculation. This includes the most updated rumours of a 'very secret' dual GF110 GF590 3GB card sometime this month, on time to take on the AMD HD6990 Radeon.

Then, we look at the total power, size and cost versus performance. The Nvidia GF110 and GF114 GPUs have somewhat lowered the numbers there, with the GF114 on the GTX560 Ti going down to 160W, giving a target for the AMD HD6950 to meet. Also, while the GF110-based GTX580 Ti card is still a big and clumsy package that can inflict real injury if wielded as a weapon, the smaller GTX560 series are as compact as any midrange cards can be.

Either way, AMD should take note of the resurgent Nvidia. The AMD 40nm process experience - and it's fair to guess also its relationship - with TSMC is definitely longer and more mature than Nvidia's, and the HD6900 series Radeons provide nicely balanced high end performance in both 3D and compute usage. But Nvidia's still very much alive Geforce branding strength and the success of its Tegra smartphone processors will rub off each other to help the often-troubled company get back on its feet.

AMD would do well to look into releasing some fine-tuned speedup flavours of the HD6900 series cards first, until the next semiconductor process shrink is ready. Even though top end cards are but a small part of total sales, the performance crown holder always enjoys the 'waterfall effect' with the mainstream part sales benefitting from the top speed position. So 2011 should definitely be more exciting than the last one, as both main graphics processor vendors have to speed up their new product introductions.

At the same time, AMD can use its substantial compute FP performance advantage, as well as large on board memory - useful for offloading larger tasks locally from the CPU without non-stop hopping over the slow PCIe connection - to show the benefits of its designs in more generalised graphics applications besides gaming. After all, unless 10 megapixel 4096x2560 or such 16:10 screens become commonplace, with the corresponding need for a high-end GPU to fill them, the 3D gaming benchmark performance difference between Nvidia's GTX580 and AMD's HD6970 - or for that matter their upcoming dual chip GTX590 and HD6990 incarnations - will be mostly academic. µ

 

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erm...

so your £500 double GPU graphics card out performs a £350 single GPU card?

big whoop

now try 560 SOC SLI with a £60 saving and see which is better value

(I'll give you a hint, it's still not ATI/AMD)

posted by : andy, 15 February 2011 Complain about this comment
eyefinity rocks!

the only time bevels get in the way are if you rotate anything smaller than a 30" and try and play in portrait... that or you fail at picking out monitors... I have 3x samsung 2343s 3x (2048x1152) bevels don't really come into play...

a 6970 should run that fine... I have a 5970 and its starting to lack in ram at full res and eyecandy...

but then again... I can do that on my 5970 that outperforms a 580...

posted by : Patriot, 14 February 2011 Complain about this comment
I have tried 3 screen gaming...

but I prefer large single screen gaming, the bezels kill it dead

and a $120 card can in no way play all the latest games on 3 screens with all the eye candy turned up to full

even a $200 card struggles to play all the latest games on 1 screen at full resolution with all the options turned on

playing Crysis or AvP or any decent DX11 title on a $120 card on 3 screens you must have to turn all the settings to "minimum", it must be like playing a "lego" version of whatever game it is

posted by : andy, 14 February 2011 Complain about this comment
Missing an important point

I'll echo Mitchell.

I am deeply disappointed with this article, because it misses AMD/ATI's new killer feature: support for 3 monitors as standard with decent performance. My next graphics card will be AMD/ATI because of this.

posted by : Quentin, 08 February 2011 Complain about this comment
AMD Won

With a single AMD video card I can do triple screen gaming (Eyefinity) and if you have done eyefinity you know that there is no going back. I do this with a $120.00 Radeon 5770. To do anything close to this with NVIDIA requires I buy two NVIDIA cards and a special mobo that supports two video cards and an extra wattage power supply.

Sorry Triple Screen gaming from a $120.00 video card means AMD already won. If your not using triple screens you missing the best upgrade since the first 3dfx card.

posted by : Mitchell, 07 February 2011 Complain about this comment
Value for money

I've been holding off buying a new graphics card, my current one was "top of the range" 2 years ago and can still play all games (sans DX11 tesselation) at high res with all settings cranked up

then I saw the Gigabyte 560 SOC which comes out of the box at 1GHz (£219.99 at DABS), which performs on par with the GTX 570 but is £50 cheaper

Value For Money it beats everything that AMD currently have out there... anything cheaper from AMD isn't consistently over 30fps @1920x1080 and anything more expensive is near £300 for the same performance

if all you want is HD gaming on a single monitor with all the options turned up, this is the sweet spot right now

posted by : Andy, 07 February 2011 Complain about this comment
Matter of trust.

After all the renaming of cards, and the defective 8400 cards in laptops of which I have one, NVIDA scares me. ATI delivered with its 5000 series, of which I have two 5770's that have worked flawlessly. With the news that Intel is going to put copy protection on its new chip, I believe that AMD, and ATI will my ideal combination for years to come.

posted by : MPrck, 06 February 2011 Complain about this comment
QuadHd computer monitors

I wonder why there are not any QuadHD computer monitors, e.g. 36"@3840x2400.
Tehy would be absolutely fine for digital photo work. Why the manufactures do not want to make them?

posted by : wirk, 06 February 2011 Complain about this comment
Please

Can you tell us how any of this translates into real life performance..... I didn't think so.

posted by : too bad, 05 February 2011 Complain about this comment
really?

The article is standard here... what I really love is something which I caught on the sidebar... the poll:

"{Would you buy a phone with a dual core (like Tegra) mobile chip in it?"

has this selected by default:

"5) I wouldn't put an Nvidia chip in my trouser pocket"

I love this place! I'm almost 40 and when I come here the fanboism makes me feel ripe and young again!

Thanks!

posted by : Dan, 05 February 2011 Complain about this comment
What a sensationalist story title

Perhaps this is meant to be a forward looking opinion article? The title is horribly inaccurate and seems to imply that nVidia has announced a GPU that could actually scale.

For four (3xxx - 6xxx) generations now Radeons have been been doubled up on boards to provide bleeding edge performance. This is nothing new, hence the 6990 is a nature progression.

nVidia will not have a single board solution since they can't manage to put 580s on one board. If they use anything less than a 580, it wouldn't likely surpass a 6990. Current Crossfire vs SLI benchmarks all demonstrate this well enough.

posted by : Where's the beef?, 04 February 2011 Complain about this comment
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