Yeah, but IE is nothing but an embarrassment for M$, or would be if M$ were capable of being embarrassed... So maybe flaws and lapses are actually crucial to product success: after you have users totally compromised by their having chosen an inferior product, they'd have to *admit* it was a mistake, and hardly anyone can withstand such a blow to ego. Hmm. Matches with how those who bought into the phony wars now can't admit they were lied to...