I myself included.. I just purchased a new Pioneer headunit about a month ago, and with ver. 3.1.2 it works fine, but after upgrading to iOS4 it will no longer charge my phone or play music from it.. Thanks Apple for breaking it.
I never cease to be amazed at what consumers will put up with from vendors. Apple are now dictating what apps will be allowed to run on some of there mobile devices. How do they get away with this? And coming from a country that is laughably supposed to be the main bastion of freedom and ethics in the world. Perhaps Jobs should take to wearing a small moustache and saying "Zig Heil" before giving his keynote speeches. Im sure the eager Apple fanbois will be only too happy to click their heels together and do a "Heil Jobs" in return.
NP dude - you're clearly a reasonable guy. Just bear in mind that these articles are deliberately inflammatory, designed to provoke unreasoning fanbois - if you rise to it you risk doing yourself an injustice.
Sometimes I wish I was a psychologist or something, and I'd gather all those comments at INQ's Apple articles only to build a thesis about fanaticism and maybe win a Nobel prize...
Get thee to a psychologist! Seriously. You're clearly unable to conquer your insecurities on your own. You need professional help. I mean it. Do it now!
I apologise, Taken out of the overall comment like that, that remark seems overly harsh. And your right of course. But like i said i've never owned a Mac and don't like apple as a company. However I do find the iPhone fits quite well into my life. I generally operate a mental policy of, If it works for you, great. If it doesn't. Fine.
The iPhone works for me and as far as I'm concerned, end of.
My prior comment was as a result of being frustrated at the author of the article for presenting the issues with the iPhone 4 as bigger than they are. And for point 3 being "a small fortune" even when the linked article said how the pricing of the iPhone 4 was actually relatively reasonable. My comment was aimed at the author, not people in general and I apologise for that.
I don't believe that others are jealous, I do however feel that certain journalists and industry commentators are very quick to scathe a phone that is produced by apple regardless of its merits. I'm sorry if I offended anyone and by all means I retract my previous statement
Just in case you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic. Honestly the only lemmings are the ones that follow this site. Would be nice if you guys would cover other phones rather then wasting our time on this.
Thanks for the continued truth alerts which the dim witted apple owners choose to defend! Apple bashing=Cider and lemmings jump off cliff's! keep up the good work inQ! Regards
No, Stefing, we wouldn't want you to fall off a cliff. I'm sure they'll keep the article right here so anti-fanboi's like you won't be drawn to jump.
Personally, the negative press is doing some good. For those that wanted to wait until after the first day craziness to get an iPhone 4, they will have a much easier time now. Seems that the post 1st day shipments are coming through quite quickly now. Probably due to a large number of cancelled orders. LOL!
the inquirer, being on Google or HTC's pay list, fail to change the reality. the iPhone 4 is a damn good phone. the display, processor, app store, iTunes, camera, design, battery life, etc all in one package makes the competition a joke.
Gee Inq, over analise things much? Sure there are issues. Interestingly enough most of what you mention here are similar to ALL smart phones worth owning.
Most issues Apple will fix. While I'm not so sure about the antenna one, they really goofed on that one and continue to goof. Won't cause me much grief anyway, because I will encase mine. But the rest of the arguments presented here are really overboard. All high end smart phones cost a pretty penny to purchase and own. Corporate Blackberry's still cost more to operate than an iPhone.
To bad it's easy to say that articles like this show nothing but spite and envy. Makes you really look bad.
This iphone mania reminds me of a bunch of adolescent girls descending on a fashion store touting a newly introduced shiny "must-have" item.
It doesn't matter if the item doesn't fit right, causing blisters, or that it seems to be a magnet for dirt, or that it can't be easily cleaned. Since it's a "must-have" item, it can't be questioned, or the purchase event delayed.
I do question the sanity of apple buyers, similarly to those who go out to town in $1,000 "big brand" shoes, and return in $2 flippers after the fashionable item blistered up their feet.
In Apple's case, "everyone" has known that the company places form over function. And far from addressing the issue, their RF side has gotten progressively worse as they have introduced newer models. At this rate, I expect that the iphone5 will offer smoke and light signals as backup communication methods.
I am not sure I see the validity of your reasoning process.
"People are still buying...the Iphone4...".
Apple is making lots of money. Therefore I should also buy an Iphone 4.
Similar to:
Lots of sheep are jumping to their death off of a cliff.
I am a sheep.
Therefore I should also jump to my death off of a cliff.
Actually, the exposed antenna of the Iphone 4 might actually be dangerous in terms of RF exposure (look up "inverse square law"), so this analogy might be pretty appropriate.
Besides the graphical fix (which we all know is all that is needed to ensure that everything is okay), I'm pretty convinced they will:
1) up the juice to the antenna so it gives you a tumor quicker than jobs can get another liver transplant.
2) work out a way to switch one or the other antenna when a loss of signal strength is detected.
damn ... just need a manufacturer to make a sexier Android phone now ...
Let me tell you what is Fail Lawrence. Starting a Post with the word "Epic" is Fail. The iPhone 4 is a great phone, it works well, reception is great, and I have a sneaking suspicion you are a white supremacist... should we call homeland security on you?
Post-decision cognitive dissonance could explain the "positive" results from some Iphone 4 users, reasoned as followed:
1) "I spent/committed to spend $600 or more on this shiny new Iphone4, and may have paid a further premium just to 'upgrade' from my previous phone".
2) "The Iphone 4 has many problems...many more problems than my previous phone".
3) "Only a fool would spend so much to 'upgrade' to a defective phone".
4) "Apple is ignoring these many problems, and offering no meaningful solution to most of them except to demand still more money for a 'bumper case'".
4) "Therefore, I will also pretend that this phone is wonderful and perfect just as Saint Steven say it is, and buy the 'wonderful and perfect' bumper case, allowing me to at least make some calls, resolving my mental conflict".
I think that article is good. Is objective with lot of sarcasm. Making little bit of fun of the "perfect" company which makes "perfect" products. But fanboys are the loudest here. They act like drug addicted people when you start discussing with them why drugs are bad and why are good. Addicted person will always fight for it's belief he/she has and will not accept different point of view. I'm not apple hater but i think i wont buy another apple product anymore. Last time i did it i felt like betrayed donkey.
Apple has sold about 2 million iPhone 4's in the less than two weeks since its introduction.
Even with all the negative hype about the new antennae, over 99% of iPhone 4 owners report better reception than with their previous smart phones, including previous iPhones. (No Verizon/ATT/Nextel, etc. comparisons.)
And every review of the actual product by impartial third parties shows the iPhone to be a superior product both against the competition and previous versions of the iPhone.
Yup I am sure apple is failing, they are getting truck loads of money. Truck loads of money = Fail. I'm starting to think Lawrence Latif = Fail. I should know better the inquirer has been going down hill for years now. It would be nice if you guys would cover other phones other then apple's. You're apples best friends, everyday there is an apple article.
I got a new approach for you, if you hate apple so much which I am starting to think you don't. You should start showing how great HTC and Samsung android phones are. They deserve more credit then you are giving them. At least more press come on. Seems like you are in love with apple love hate relationship. Even your INQ poll is an apple one. It's like hello there are other phones then apple out there. Why don't you guys take a look!
It's obviously incredibly frustrating for all you at The Inq that people are still buying and loving the iPhone 4. The fools! Don't they realise how crap it is? They must have been hypnotised, or befuddled by RDF, or... or... or just be REALLY STUPID. Yeah, that's it. Everyone who buys an iPhone 4 is REALLY STUPID. I mean, there's no other possible explanation, is there?
Also don't forget about iOS4 not working with most car stereo's with iPod/iPhone support.
Here is the rather lengthy thread.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2470321&tstart=0
I myself included.. I just purchased a new Pioneer headunit about a month ago, and with ver. 3.1.2 it works fine, but after upgrading to iOS4 it will no longer charge my phone or play music from it.. Thanks Apple for breaking it.
I never cease to be amazed at what consumers will put up with from vendors. Apple are now dictating what apps will be allowed to run on some of there mobile devices. How do they get away with this? And coming from a country that is laughably supposed to be the main bastion of freedom and ethics in the world. Perhaps Jobs should take to wearing a small moustache and saying "Zig Heil" before giving his keynote speeches. Im sure the eager Apple fanbois will be only too happy to click their heels together and do a "Heil Jobs" in return.
To ALL APPLE FANIDIOT's
Let see:
http://www.gsmarena.com/2009_world_handset_sales_ranked_iphone_os_eats_winmo-news-1469.php
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1372013
Where's "fruit theme company" located???
NEXT! Let's see...:
http://www.interbrand.com/best_global_brands.aspx
Where the heck the "fruit theme company" located??? Oh... doooooowwwnnnn... there. Hello there, little young idiot fellow...
Do you REALLY think "LITTLE fruit theme company" even matter for the MAJORITY of 6 Billion people???
NVFAN (+ APPLDIOT'S) HATER
To ALL APPLE FANIDIOT's
Let see:
http://www.gsmarena.com/2009_world_handset_sales_ranked_iphone_os_eats_winmo-news-1469.php
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1372013
Where's "fruit theme company" located???
NEXT! Let's see...:
http://www.interbrand.com/best_global_brands.aspx
Where the heck the "fruit theme company" located??? Oh... doooooowwwnnnn... there. Hello there, little young idiot fellow...
Do you REALLY think "LITTLE fruit theme company" even matter for the MAJORITY of 6 Billion people???
NVFAN (+ APPLDIOT'S) HATER
Every company makes a "dog" product that is so full of holes as to be swiss cheese but smell twice as bad.
MS had its Vista OS and Now Apple has its iPhone 4.
NP dude - you're clearly a reasonable guy. Just bear in mind that these articles are deliberately inflammatory, designed to provoke unreasoning fanbois - if you rise to it you risk doing yourself an injustice.
Sometimes I wish I was a psychologist or something, and I'd gather all those comments at INQ's Apple articles only to build a thesis about fanaticism and maybe win a Nobel prize...
Now seriously, fanboy reactions are always fun.
Keep'em coming.
Get thee to a psychologist! Seriously. You're clearly unable to conquer your insecurities on your own. You need professional help. I mean it. Do it now!
I apologise, Taken out of the overall comment like that, that remark seems overly harsh. And your right of course. But like i said i've never owned a Mac and don't like apple as a company. However I do find the iPhone fits quite well into my life. I generally operate a mental policy of, If it works for you, great. If it doesn't. Fine.
The iPhone works for me and as far as I'm concerned, end of.
My prior comment was as a result of being frustrated at the author of the article for presenting the issues with the iPhone 4 as bigger than they are. And for point 3 being "a small fortune" even when the linked article said how the pricing of the iPhone 4 was actually relatively reasonable. My comment was aimed at the author, not people in general and I apologise for that.
I don't believe that others are jealous, I do however feel that certain journalists and industry commentators are very quick to scathe a phone that is produced by apple regardless of its merits. I'm sorry if I offended anyone and by all means I retract my previous statement
The best INQ satirical post all week to me.
Just in case you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic. Honestly the only lemmings are the ones that follow this site. Would be nice if you guys would cover other phones rather then wasting our time on this.
Thanks for the continued truth alerts which the dim witted apple owners choose to defend! Apple bashing=Cider and lemmings jump off cliff's! keep up the good work inQ! Regards
I doubt it got that much considering the testers were so drunk they didn't even know where the phones were until they read about it on the web.
No, Stefing, we wouldn't want you to fall off a cliff. I'm sure they'll keep the article right here so anti-fanboi's like you won't be drawn to jump.
Personally, the negative press is doing some good. For those that wanted to wait until after the first day craziness to get an iPhone 4, they will have a much easier time now. Seems that the post 1st day shipments are coming through quite quickly now. Probably due to a large number of cancelled orders. LOL!
These articles work as a great fanbois magnet, if we throw it off a cliff will they follow as keenly as they do to swallow Apple's bollocks?
the inquirer, being on Google or HTC's pay list, fail to change the reality. the iPhone 4 is a damn good phone. the display, processor, app store, iTunes, camera, design, battery life, etc all in one package makes the competition a joke.
Gee Inq, over analise things much? Sure there are issues. Interestingly enough most of what you mention here are similar to ALL smart phones worth owning.
Most issues Apple will fix. While I'm not so sure about the antenna one, they really goofed on that one and continue to goof. Won't cause me much grief anyway, because I will encase mine. But the rest of the arguments presented here are really overboard. All high end smart phones cost a pretty penny to purchase and own. Corporate Blackberry's still cost more to operate than an iPhone.
To bad it's easy to say that articles like this show nothing but spite and envy. Makes you really look bad.
This iphone mania reminds me of a bunch of adolescent girls descending on a fashion store touting a newly introduced shiny "must-have" item.
It doesn't matter if the item doesn't fit right, causing blisters, or that it seems to be a magnet for dirt, or that it can't be easily cleaned. Since it's a "must-have" item, it can't be questioned, or the purchase event delayed.
I do question the sanity of apple buyers, similarly to those who go out to town in $1,000 "big brand" shoes, and return in $2 flippers after the fashionable item blistered up their feet.
In Apple's case, "everyone" has known that the company places form over function. And far from addressing the issue, their RF side has gotten progressively worse as they have introduced newer models. At this rate, I expect that the iphone5 will offer smoke and light signals as backup communication methods.
Serves them right.
Apple collecting, sharing iPhone users' precise locations
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/06/apple-location-privacy-iphone-ipad.html
@ sulis
I am not sure I see the validity of your reasoning process.
"People are still buying...the Iphone4...".
Apple is making lots of money. Therefore I should also buy an Iphone 4.
Similar to:
Lots of sheep are jumping to their death off of a cliff.
I am a sheep.
Therefore I should also jump to my death off of a cliff.
Actually, the exposed antenna of the Iphone 4 might actually be dangerous in terms of RF exposure (look up "inverse square law"), so this analogy might be pretty appropriate.
Green kool-aid ... apple flavored ...
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/07/02appleletter.html
Besides the graphical fix (which we all know is all that is needed to ensure that everything is okay), I'm pretty convinced they will:
1) up the juice to the antenna so it gives you a tumor quicker than jobs can get another liver transplant.
2) work out a way to switch one or the other antenna when a loss of signal strength is detected.
damn ... just need a manufacturer to make a sexier Android phone now ...
written on a MacBook Pro (seriously)
Let me tell you what is Fail Lawrence. Starting a Post with the word "Epic" is Fail. The iPhone 4 is a great phone, it works well, reception is great, and I have a sneaking suspicion you are a white supremacist... should we call homeland security on you?
Post-decision cognitive dissonance could explain the "positive" results from some Iphone 4 users, reasoned as followed:
1) "I spent/committed to spend $600 or more on this shiny new Iphone4, and may have paid a further premium just to 'upgrade' from my previous phone".
2) "The Iphone 4 has many problems...many more problems than my previous phone".
3) "Only a fool would spend so much to 'upgrade' to a defective phone".
4) "Apple is ignoring these many problems, and offering no meaningful solution to most of them except to demand still more money for a 'bumper case'".
4) "Therefore, I will also pretend that this phone is wonderful and perfect just as Saint Steven say it is, and buy the 'wonderful and perfect' bumper case, allowing me to at least make some calls, resolving my mental conflict".
Problem solved.
Lawrence of Latifia keeps getting better and better :-)
And for Tim McCoy will quote Einstein:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
So,i expect those 2 million to increase rapidly :-)
I think that article is good. Is objective with lot of sarcasm. Making little bit of fun of the "perfect" company which makes "perfect" products. But fanboys are the loudest here. They act like drug addicted people when you start discussing with them why drugs are bad and why are good. Addicted person will always fight for it's belief he/she has and will not accept different point of view. I'm not apple hater but i think i wont buy another apple product anymore. Last time i did it i felt like betrayed donkey.
Apple has sold about 2 million iPhone 4's in the less than two weeks since its introduction.
Even with all the negative hype about the new antennae, over 99% of iPhone 4 owners report better reception than with their previous smart phones, including previous iPhones. (No Verizon/ATT/Nextel, etc. comparisons.)
And every review of the actual product by impartial third parties shows the iPhone to be a superior product both against the competition and previous versions of the iPhone.
And no, you still can't do porn for the iPhone.
For that you have to stick with a Droid phone.
Yup I am sure apple is failing, they are getting truck loads of money. Truck loads of money = Fail. I'm starting to think Lawrence Latif = Fail. I should know better the inquirer has been going down hill for years now. It would be nice if you guys would cover other phones other then apple's. You're apples best friends, everyday there is an apple article.
I got a new approach for you, if you hate apple so much which I am starting to think you don't. You should start showing how great HTC and Samsung android phones are. They deserve more credit then you are giving them. At least more press come on. Seems like you are in love with apple love hate relationship. Even your INQ poll is an apple one. It's like hello there are other phones then apple out there. Why don't you guys take a look!
It's obviously incredibly frustrating for all you at The Inq that people are still buying and loving the iPhone 4. The fools! Don't they realise how crap it is? They must have been hypnotised, or befuddled by RDF, or... or... or just be REALLY STUPID. Yeah, that's it. Everyone who buys an iPhone 4 is REALLY STUPID. I mean, there's no other possible explanation, is there?