Apple hasn't invested in software that protects against viruses because they don't need too. The market share is still PC software. (More so in the buissness world.) Therefore Hackers target PCs. Also Apple has software that backs up your computer softwarre and files automatically and wirelessly. So what gives? Apple users don't complain, so nether should jealous PC users.

did u guys miss the troll part?
yes I was a complete moronic apple user, its not too hard, just think blind devotion

anyway, successful trolling complete

screw the aPple/itards, they really are that stupid, no freedom, even less sense..
be a ass in the hole, buy apple

Seems I didn't see the sign...

"Do not poke or feed the iAnimals. Apple gives them enough stick and peanut products"

You BUTT HOLES. If you don't like Apple, Macs or iUsers F OFF and get a life you saddo. If peeps wanna use Fruit Themed Kewl toys, well that has NOTHING to do with YOU! BUTT WIPES.

Maybe it's one of those cute in-jokes and maybe he's flattered, but actually it isn't Graham CLUELY, it's CLULEY.

Unless your guy turns out to be a forgery of the real Cluley...

Updating a nasty-stuff signatures file isn't big news. I'd expect it to be mentioned but not itemised. I think Microsoft's monthly anti-malware tool sometimes mentions what's new that it mremoves and sometimes doesn't'. It too is no virus scanner, of course, except very technically.

Re: "security problems that plague Windows users" In the last five years (since I started using licenced versions of Windows) I've never had a virus or any problems with malware of any kind, on any of my PCs. I've always used free security software and don't take any particular pains over
security, it's just never been a problem.

I have fixed a load of other people's infected computers, and nearly always they were full of dodgy downloads, warez and fake system utilities. Generally in my experience it's the user that's the vulnerability, not the OS.

You sound like almost every other iTard addict, stupid, dissalusioned and running a slow computer :D

Thanks dude! That was funny!

@ip0ln: Mac users unique... yeah! See ten Imacs in a row and look at how unique they all are. Want to be original you should go support Psystar :)

A trojan is social engineering - it has nothing to do with the operating system or its security. It's no different than traditional social engineering, where I call up a company and pretend to be an employee, supplier, etc. to gain privileged information. A trojan is no different, it tricks the end user into doing or authorizing something they shouldn't. A trojan exploits flaws in the user, not the OS. A *virus* on the other hand, exploits flaws in the OS, and requires no user interaction whatsoever. Windows is riddled with viruses, while OSX is 100% virus free.

where you say no one is worse than windows, i cannot agree with that comment....yes there are more viruses etc etc etc, but the truth in reality is mac is the worst due to the fact that its ignorant customers truly believe that they are immune from trojans and viruses, so that they dont use any malware protection...in reality a large percentage of macs are infected without the consumer even knowing it...

and @ip0ln itroll
your a moronic tool that has absolutely no idea what their talking about, you just read too many pro crapple propaganda sites

I agree with Scott. And 3000 viruses a week for windows are not acceptable. And I think Linux is better at security. Remember Firefox changed the scenario when IE security was very weak.

All OS are vulnerable but none as bad as Windows. Even my favorite Linux is not bullet proof. Apple needs to stop having have an arrogant approach through.
Just because windows won't run on os x And Linux does not make them immune.
Both have better built in security, but if made by man it can be undone by man.
An remember apps like flash and other addon's can be the weak chain in the link.Face it ALL our new technology is vulnerable and unsafe,

For starters buying a closed, proprietary tech platform cannot be called unique. Building your own box and compiling your own Gentoo install is unique.

Trojan, virus, the difference doesn't matter. An exploit is an exploit. Your whiny little hair splitting is like saying "My car wasn't stolen, it was taken briefly, then set on fire."

Remember, while your head is in the sand, your arse is sticking up like a target and everyone's laughing at it.

@Regulas
Do you really think that just because it needs permission that there aren't MAC users stupid enough to grant it? I see the stupid ass crap MAC users do to their machines in the shop I work in. Our MAC tech laughs at them just as loud as we laugh at the Windows users idiotic mistakes.

lol at "microsoft windows malicious software removal tool"!!!!!!,
never seen that on Mac OS, u know why?

apple have always ruled the roost, they always gave us secure computers when all you 'users' had was windows & linux

why apple didn't end up running corporate America I'll never know!

Anyway, doubtless this latest issue is down to an Adobe problem,
lately Adobe was the first ever way Mac OS can be compromised(I like to call adobe fans A-tards, lol- cant beat original humor), anyway, adobe gives you not virus on Mac OS(you cant get a virus on Mac OS)

FYI noobs, apple don't get virus, a Trojan(which don't replicate) is not a virus!!!
enjoy your -i(thats a minus i!!!, see how it feels wn-doze) wndows? -i

have more freedom in your computing guys!
be original!!!
be free to do what you want!!!
do your own thing,
be unique,
BUY APPLE!!!!

otherwise you just end up living a lfe, as opposed to a proper liiiiiiife

go ip*something

ipad
ipod
ipearl
ipong
ipat
ipull
ipush

...u get the idea

... how many fixes Microsoft has rolled out silently. Or do you seriously believe that 16 MB security update fixes a single hole.

But really, if malware hast to ask for admin-rights, it's not really the system, it's PEBCAK.

Firstly BSD was developed from the original Unix source code. It is generally considered to be a Unix derivative, not a Unix-like operating system.

Secondly OS X ISN'T based on BSD, it's based on the Carnegie Mellon Mach kernel, which was designed as a drop-in replacement for the original Unix kernel. PARTS of it's user space are based on BSD4.3 and it is certified under the Single UNIX Specification (SUS), something that can't be said of Linux and open BSD builds.

The article is about them slipping it past users without them knowing, in order to maintain an aura of 'you won't get infected'. Making patches for vulnerabilities imply they exist, which Apple does not want to admit.

Is a second reason you get most of your software from Apple the fact relatively few people produce it?

(ps in the last pwn2own I think someone took control of a mac via safari exploits)

Actually Apple Manifesto OSX is built on top of FreeBSD and not Unix. But you were close :)

First why was it "secretly" slipped in. You mean to say Apple added to our security on the last update, so freaking what, thank you Apple is my reply.
No virus or threat by just visiting a web page, that is what Apple boasts and this does not break that boast. From your article I understand this Trojan must be installed by the user who is thinking they are getting some free stuff in order for it to work. Better luck next time. One reason I always get my widgets and such from Apple's own site.

Apple Manifesto please say you were being sarcastic? Unix isn't unto itself any safer than Windows, and Microsoft now implement good and proper secure coding practices, something Apple are yet to do. Phishing detection is available in all major browsers, as are capable firewalls (and I've no doubt both of Apple's products here contain 0-days etc). And how exactly will OpenDNS put you in a different place to a Windows user?

It's widely accepted that bar software signing, Apple products are notoriously unsecure but have yet to be exploited due to low commercial gains. This will change in the coming years as the user influx from the (admittedly excellent) Iphone and (much larger version of said product) Ipad decide to purchase a Mac for their next PC.

Mac OS 10.6.4 is one of the most safe if not the safest OS'es currently available. And with every update or release it gets better and better. Remember Mac OS X is and is built on secure and safe UNIX! With Safari's Anti-Phising protection, having the built-in firewall enabled with Stealth Mode, and using free OpenDNS on your network, you are more than safe from what plagues most Windows users constantly...

Does Graham have anti virus for the apple pc's?

I wonder how enticing it would be for crooks to setup some "software" for sale on Ishop for say $500. Then hack some apple pc's and get them to buy this software from the Ishop.

It's very similar to the old modem dial-up theft software. The ones that installed themselves on your pc and made your modem dial a premium rate number in Ghana instead of your ISP.

Apple's ishop has to be a big juicy target. Are Nigerian Prince's allowed to sell software on Ishop? ;-)