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Attempted to Return?

The person who found the phone hardly made an honest attempt to return it. I blogged about this here, if anyone's interested. Be forewarned, it's quite lengthy.

http://accfed.blogtownhall.com/2010/04/30/apples_too_big_to_have_legal_rights.thtml

But as has already been mentioned, he got the owner's name from the Facebook page displayed on the phone. Did he attempt to leave it with the bartender? No. Did he report it to the police? No. If he had left it with the bartender, Gray Powell would have gotten it back the next day, as he made multiple attempts to contact the bar to see if they had found it or if someone had turned it in.

What he did do was call Apple support. Apple support? What sense does this make? He knew the owner's name. Did he mention the owner's name? No. Apple support asked for a photograph of the phone so they could verify that it was one of theirs. He did not provide a photograph. They were technical support; they were not equipped to deal with lost prototypes. They had no knowledge of prototypes, and this could have been one of hundreds of such calls that they receive about what look like cobbled together iPhones that might be Chinese knock-offs.

Here's the first clue. Apple technical support is not where you go to report a found item. You should first leave it at the place of business where you found it. The rightful owner will probably go there looking for it. Barring that, you take it to the police, who will turn it over to the owner if it is reported missing or stolen. Calling Apple support is not a serious attempt. He merely did enough to tell himself, "Oh well. I tried", perhaps even thinking that the law would agree.

Even so, they opened up a help ticket for him. If he was silly enough to think they were the right folks to contact, he should have held on to it and waited. Instead, he shopped to the thing around looking for the highest bidder.

posted by : Roy, 01 May 2010 Complain about this comment
Really?

The person who found the phone made a documented attempt to return the phone to Apple (which Apple acknowledges), but was blown off. Once he took this action of trying to return the item to the rightful owner, but the owner was not interested in having the item returned, it is not stolen property. Gizmodo did not buy or receive stolen property as Apple did not want the phone back until the story was published on Gizmodo.com.

I was about to buy a new iPod right when all this crap surfaced, but after seeing how Apple chooses to act and involve itself with the police, I'm not interested in funding any of their actions thru my purchase. Zune here I come!

PS- Isn't Microsoft the one that's supposed to be evil?

posted by : Sam, 29 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Really Starting to Doubt INQ

Who writes this nonsense anyway? I'm really starting to doubt whether the so-called journalists at the INQ have any reasoning powers at all.

Mike is absolutely correct. This is not about "checkbook journalism" it is about an alleged felony. This has nothing really to do with Apple--it has to do with a crime and that is why the police are involved.

@Psihomodo

"And where does it say it was stolen?

The man left it there, so it is his doing, end of discussion.

What a bunch of lame ass smug so-called-journalists and theis law suit comments...

I dislike US even more now :P"

Good grief! You obviously don't know any of the facts. Why don't you Google it and get some more information before you post nonsense. To amplify what Seward has said, the moment the thief walked out of the bar with that phone (Gizmodo claims he did not know it was anything but a simple production iPhone at the time) he became a thief. Anyone with any sense of ethics would have handed it to the bar tender immediately--note: it has been reported that the poor hapless engineer called the bar multiple times inquiring about the phone. He stole that phone, pure and simple. Unfortunately for him he didn't know the magnitude of his crime until later and then compounded and ensured its full exposure when he sold it to Gizmodo.

INQ, I know you get great pleasure from being edgy, but at least try to think a little before you post drivel like this. If this represents your journalistic standards then I really have to doubt whether any of the information on your site is at all reliable.

posted by : Geoff, 28 April 2010 Complain about this comment
No Trolls - Just Not So Blind That We Can't See An Alleged Crime

QUOTE: "The man left it there, so it is his doing, end of discussion.
What a bunch of lame ass smug so-called-journalists and theis law suit comments...
I dislike US even more now :P"

Let's see. Under English common law, the failure to return mislaid property would be a crime and buying the same would also be a crime. No different in the US, except that California (and most US States) have a Penal Code that makes it a crime to take lost property as your own without making a reasonable and just effort to locate the owner - the "finder" allegedly did not and thus (if true) became a thief - especially when he sold it. The purchaser allegedly violated another Penal Code statute against the purchase of stolen property.

Really, what great country do YOU live in that it is NOT against ethics and the law to find someone's blackberry, car keys or wallet and NOT ONLY do nearly nothing to return the same (i.e., give it to the barkeep), but SELL the same as well. The only answer one can give is that criminal conduct is the norm in a country with those ethics. So, it's NOT about the publication of news - or the purchase of information from a source - it's about the alleged theft and conversion of someone else's property - someone whose name was KNOWN to the "finder" when he opened up the phone and saw the owner's facebook page.

posted by : Seward, 22 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Apple being Apple

Oh please settle down rabid fanbois.
I am sure Apple is in a better position than anyone to decide what it wants and can do in the matter. Apple did all they could, at no time did gizmo try to hinder recovery. There is also no doubt in anyones mind that Apple has a bigger legal staff than design team. After all they did release the same phone over and over and over......and you people got, over and over and over...
Did it ever occur to apple and rabid fanboys that maybe people dont like their designs? That people would actually think they are tacky or repulsive even?
I saw the what gizmodo plublished and there was no corporate 007 spinonage.
They simply pointed out the obvious, the Iphone has A serious battery and signal problem. After 4 phones, you have to hand it to apple for finally adressing some issues. I wonder how long it will take them to adress the low resolution screen?

posted by : missingxtension, 22 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Trolls

And where does it say it was stolen?

The man left it there, so it is his doing, end of discussion.

What a bunch of lame ass smug so-called-journalists and theis law suit comments...

I dislike US even more now :P

posted by : Psihomodo, 22 April 2010 Complain about this comment
jealous

Sounds like the other news organizations are jelous they werent in gizmodo's place, gizmodo isnt the first to do something like this.

posted by : Keleus, 21 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Theft

Journalists pay for stories. That's fine. What's not fine is that Gizmodo paid for a PHYSICAL object and reversed engineered intellectual property for the world to see. That is STEALING.

posted by : Derek, 21 April 2010 Complain about this comment
theft is theft

Change the scenario.
A laptop with instructions on building weapons was found or stolen.
A print or web publisher buys the laptop even though the name of the owner was clearly labeled.
They publish plans for weapons, because it is everybody's right to know.

Property is property. One does not have the moral or legal right to sell someone else's property without their permission. I say this because they have not given detailed info on how the finder tried to contact Apple and the scant info on the net has not been consistent.

Time to understand morality.

posted by : bap, 21 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Analogically...

The funny thing is none of this would be happening if this was a RIM phone and a RIM engineer who was named.

Everyone would be falling over themselves congratulating Giz for the scoop and laughing at RIM for failing to protect their prototypes.

posted by : truth, 21 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Uh, hello? They broke the law.

Gizmodo purchased property which they knew was stolen. They then opened it up and revealed Apple's trade secrets to the world at large. There's no question that their actions have cost Apple millions.

So it certainly doesn't seem, on the face of it, unreasonable for Apple to sue.

As to why Jeff Bercovici, myself, and a whole bunch of other people are so keen to see that happen, it has everything to do with Gizmodo naming the poor bastard who lost the phone when it was impossible to argue that it was in the public interest to do so. Added to which, Nick Denton and Brian Lam are being unbelievably smug about the whole thing.

They have nothing to be proud of here.

posted by : Ian, 21 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Missing the point

The problem is not "checkbook journalism." The problem is receiving stolen items.

Had Gizmodo met with the guy who found the phone, said "Here's $5000 to let us photograph and play with it, now let's call the bar or the cops and return it" -- fine, great, neither an ethical or a legal issue.

Unfortunately, CA law is pretty clear that, absent a reasonable effort to return lost property to its owner (like, for instance, telling the bar owner or the cops "If anyone lost a phone, have them call me"), keeping it is theft. Selling it is theft. Buying it is theft.

Nick Denton says he's ready to do anything for a story (http://twitter.com/nicknotned/status/12494583575). Does that include a year in jail?

posted by : Mike, 21 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Since when did bending the rules become so shocking?

Gizmodo came across a great opportunity, they bent the rules a bit, they got a great story and (probably) were careful enough that they won't face any legal recriminations.

Sounds like good news gathering to me.

Other reporters who are so scandalized by what Gizmodo did should look for employment opportunities in PR.

posted by : James, 21 April 2010 Complain about this comment

US trade press howls for Gizmodo's blood

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