It is starting to look interesting how NVidia can get out. Previously it claims that in the end it can grab the EU rate license and Rambo is bound by EU liability to to let them have it.
But Rambus's EU agreement does not include GDDR5. NVidia's slowness in adopting GDDR5 may actually work for them, but how well it will works remains to be seen.
"According to Reuters, the alleged infringements concern patents that Rambus claims Nvidia used without licence or consent. The USPTO was split on the legal dispute and ruled that one Rambus patent had been infringed, another claim was decided in Nvidia's favour, while a third received a mixed verdict."
The "mixed verdict" actually affirms NVidia infringed on that patents for at least one claim. Reuters got NVidia announcement first, so used their language. But in their updates they corrected this already (check the link you provided), since words from Rambo is less of a spin (closer to what really happened):
"Memory chip designer Rambus Inc (RMBS.O) said the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office had affirmed two of three patents at the center of a legal dispute over whether graphics chip maker Nvidia Corp (NVDA.O) infringed on Rambus technology."
Several judges should be more unbiased than us on this matter. Read the case Hynix had with Rambo, the judge said "Rambus is definitely NOT a patent troll".
@Frank, hate SCO, not Rambo. Know the difference please.
@cheers, did you know how long had Rambo tried to negotiate a license with Nvidium? Nvidium is on notice of infringement since 2000.
Who is wasting whose time here? The money NVidium get back from? From where? You consumers? Nvidium's nForce, Quadro, GeForce, Tesla and Tegra series all infringe. Figure a number that it would collect from Rambo to cover that 1 patent they lose on. BTW, literally they infringed two patents, many many claims in these two patents.
Rambus is a one-trick pony. Their entire business consists of submarine patents claiming that they invented synchronous DRAM (e.g. 5,430,676 awarded in 1995 - first industry SDRAM shipped in 1993) while everybody else was standardizing it. Since synchronous DRAM isn't going away, they just keep coming back suing everybody who uses any vestige of the technology.
Kind of funny how Rambus is happy that they got 1 patent (in their favor) out of so many that they originally filed.... They must be jumping for job... that they managed to get nvidia on that 1 patent.. Seems like all they do is throw patents at people till 1 of them sticks.. "Gotcha!"
Even if nvidia loses on that 1 patent. They should sue Rambus back for wasting their time and money on disputing all those other patents (that RAMBUS originally filed against them). The money they get back should be enough to cover that 1 patent that they lost to RAMBUS.
Can Rambutt and SCO just die for goodness sakes? Rambus doesn't have an actual product for sale. They are just patent trolling. I still find it hard to believe that they weren't buried when they should have been over this memory standard nonsense. So now it's "all your memory controllers are belong to us"??
Starting to believe that if minutia have to be examined
then there isn't anything patentable. Obviously Nvidious's instantion differs from anything Rambos made, even if the function is exactly the same.
It's not as though Rambos invented dynamic-RAM, after all; this is fourth- and fifth- or more generation use of an actual fundamental invention (of storing data on tiny capacitors made on semi-conductor substrate, for you who weren't there in The Beginning).
It is starting to look interesting how NVidia can get out. Previously it claims that in the end it can grab the EU rate license and Rambo is bound by EU liability to to let them have it.
But Rambus's EU agreement does not include GDDR5. NVidia's slowness in adopting GDDR5 may actually work for them, but how well it will works remains to be seen.
"According to Reuters, the alleged infringements concern patents that Rambus claims Nvidia used without licence or consent. The USPTO was split on the legal dispute and ruled that one Rambus patent had been infringed, another claim was decided in Nvidia's favour, while a third received a mixed verdict."
The "mixed verdict" actually affirms NVidia infringed on that patents for at least one claim. Reuters got NVidia announcement first, so used their language. But in their updates they corrected this already (check the link you provided), since words from Rambo is less of a spin (closer to what really happened):
"Memory chip designer Rambus Inc (RMBS.O) said the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office had affirmed two of three patents at the center of a legal dispute over whether graphics chip maker Nvidia Corp (NVDA.O) infringed on Rambus technology."
Several judges should be more unbiased than us on this matter. Read the case Hynix had with Rambo, the judge said "Rambus is definitely NOT a patent troll".
@Frank, hate SCO, not Rambo. Know the difference please.
@cheers, did you know how long had Rambo tried to negotiate a license with Nvidium? Nvidium is on notice of infringement since 2000.
Who is wasting whose time here? The money NVidium get back from? From where? You consumers? Nvidium's nForce, Quadro, GeForce, Tesla and Tegra series all infringe. Figure a number that it would collect from Rambo to cover that 1 patent they lose on. BTW, literally they infringed two patents, many many claims in these two patents.
Rambus is a one-trick pony. Their entire business consists of submarine patents claiming that they invented synchronous DRAM (e.g. 5,430,676 awarded in 1995 - first industry SDRAM shipped in 1993) while everybody else was standardizing it. Since synchronous DRAM isn't going away, they just keep coming back suing everybody who uses any vestige of the technology.
Kind of funny how Rambus is happy that they got 1 patent (in their favor) out of so many that they originally filed.... They must be jumping for job... that they managed to get nvidia on that 1 patent.. Seems like all they do is throw patents at people till 1 of them sticks.. "Gotcha!"
Even if nvidia loses on that 1 patent. They should sue Rambus back for wasting their time and money on disputing all those other patents (that RAMBUS originally filed against them). The money they get back should be enough to cover that 1 patent that they lost to RAMBUS.
Can Rambutt and SCO just die for goodness sakes? Rambus doesn't have an actual product for sale. They are just patent trolling. I still find it hard to believe that they weren't buried when they should have been over this memory standard nonsense. So now it's "all your memory controllers are belong to us"??
Rambus has more legal history than product history. They reek like SCO. I hope nvidia wins this crap.
Do they actually have any products anymore, now that their precious child RDRAM is long dead?
Rambus should find a whole to crawl up in and die.
then there isn't anything patentable. Obviously Nvidious's instantion differs from anything Rambos made, even if the function is exactly the same.
It's not as though Rambos invented dynamic-RAM, after all; this is fourth- and fifth- or more generation use of an actual fundamental invention (of storing data on tiny capacitors made on semi-conductor substrate, for you who weren't there in The Beginning).