I've been on EFF's mailing list for a long time, and I appreaciate this overview of their work. One of the things I most like is their high "signal to noise" ratio.

I appreciate EFF because I like having someone with technical expertise paying attention, and then sharing their insights and solutions.

The same thing could be said about this article- a lot of information packed into a small post.

Well done.

Come on someone, make it happen.

Civil Liberties, yeah that's a price we are all paying, but is it worth it? Sometimes.

The artists/producers and their cheap products sold for staggering amounts of money, exacly who is the pirate here? And that's the problem they face.

Pop stars crashing their latest Ferrari, hiring yachts, amazing holidays, jetting around the world by the most gas-guzzling, planet-damaging way imaginable, and that's just Sting "Save the rainforest, save the concorde airplane".

Give us the consumer our daily product and we will be happy to pay a small bit for it. All those bits add up to a lot. Make the gadget that hoovers it up.

Lets stop calling the BNP silly names; we may not agree with all they say, but they are publishing lots of rather uncomfortable truths which the establishment does not want us to hear or think about, and providing more realistic fixes for those issues than the establishment! Their forums also have some quite sensible discussions with little 'racist' content. I regard them as quite a useful thorn in the side of corrupt establishment politics, to get them a bit more honest!

Guys - they still haven't managed to raise enough money to pay for bandwidth/hosting for the coming year. How about helping one of the most important freedom of speech movement in the nowadays world?

Try and find out exactly who the members are of the EFF. Kinda similar to the KKK in their secrecy.

Jorge...

Is that the best you can do to slam EFF? A sad diatribe about their supposed qualities without a single example of why you think them so bad?

EFF represent my interests in many issues, and I'm a "consumer" (though I prefer "person" or "private citizen" to that silly marketing term :P). I have followed their actions over several years, and am today a proud contributing member.

I urge anyone interested in truth about EFF look to their actions and publicly demonstrated opinions rather than unsubstantiated rants.

The Electronic Fraud Foundation is NOT a civil liberties group. They are a bunch of industry paid liars and shills looking to dupe gullible sheep into believing they represent consumer interest, which they do not. The EFF is all about profits from fraud. Why do you think the name of the organization is the Electronic Fraud Foundation?

I *like* Chris de Burgh's Greatest Hits album. Of course, it was released was way before he did 'Lady in Red'.

In all seriousness, it's almost time for someone to release a decentralised DNS, Web, and P2P server. P2P trackerless web sites anyone? Screw the censors.

So,how does one fight for 'civil liberties' on the one hand, by saying that,one doesn't have to visit a site,such as the BNP,but that it's not an option to do so or not to with a 'porn' site?

You simply can't say that, this is ok,but that's not ok.
That is NOT democratic at all,one either one has total freedom to express an opinion,visit or NOT,as the case may be,ANY site on the Net.
Telling people, you can do this,but NOT that,is NOT acceptable in this day & age in a 'free' society,even if doing so offends others.
We have the WORST government in our democratic history & it's no coincidence that it & America are prepared to attach 'strings' to our 'freedoms'in the name of 'BIG' government.
There is, no such thing as a 'free' lunch, as Gordon Brown, will soon find out,that he will pay a heavy price for his 'STASI' policies on the british people.