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Yeah, I love how when you install Windows, it more or less guides you to setup an administrator account and _maybe_ some limited user accounts for your kids or whatever. They'll never learn. Proper permissions and proper separation of the user and administrator is crucial. Windows is just a wide open door.

posted by : LinuxLover, 18 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Don't throw rocks...

Kind of an ironic situation IMHO…a nation of (mainly Microsoft Windows) computer users sitting in their glass (Windowed) houses, all upset and feeling vulnerable, many complaining that the NSA is not doing enough to protect them.

In the off chance that the NSA cannot instantly take every rock away from every nasty rock-throwing hacker, instead of complaining, people certainly could move into better constructed software houses right now (which are free, by the way). Linux is just a download away. Windows 7 is still Windows, and has already been proven to be vulnerable to most of the same viruses/exploits.

I agree with Linuxlovers comments: Linux is a secure system by design, and it is "should" be humbling to know that professional hackers were unable to pwn a Ubuntu box -- particularly when you understand that Ubuntu does not and was not running a firewall at the time (unlike distributions like OpenSuse, which do this by default).

Linux (distributions) do receive a lot of patches (as one reader mentioned), but these typically apply to ALL the components of a Linux distro, and many are just correcting various bugs in functionality that have been reported by users (who are also free to suggest code changes, due to the nature of open source code, which can be audited and verified by all users for security problems). Security issues are typically patched fast (and do not wait until "patch Tuesdays"), but the tremendous isolation between root system processes and user space in Linux guarrantees a much higher level of security than any version of Windows to date.

posted by : Rooty, 18 November 2009 Complain about this comment
@tripodal

Reference? I doubt it. How long was it that it took MS to getting around to fixing that URL spoofing security hole in IE? I believe it went unfixed for _years_ after it was discovered and documented.

FWIW, Pwn2Own contestants couldn't crack Ubuntu, despite it being open source. The person that cracked the Mac stated afterward that the Mac is actually more secure than Windows, despite his breaking it so fast (5 seconds). He already knew about the exploit and how to do it before entering the contest.

posted by : LinuxLover, 18 November 2009 Complain about this comment
linux

last i checked, linux had more documented and unfixed bugs than windows.

just sayin.

posted by : tripodal, 18 November 2009 Complain about this comment
@spoonmonkey

Spoonmonkey, I never said it was impenetrable. I'm not one of the Ubuntu fanboys, either. However, if you even attempt to tell me that Windows is just as secure, I'll laugh in your face. Linux runs the majority of the backbone that is the internet, and exists in a minefield. It's security is hardened. However, home users likely won't know how to setup that level of security.

Windows security is a joke, and the amount of extra money you have to spend yearly in an attempt to make it secure is an even bigger joke.

posted by : LinuxLover, 18 November 2009 Complain about this comment
@linuxlover

do you want me to shoot holes in all the predicatble points of your arguemnt, or shall everyone that has a brain just leave you alone cradling your ubunto install disks, rocking gently backwards and forewards, whispering "my precioussss"?

posted by : spoonmonkey, 18 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Whew!

I was starting to get worried that Nick took a particular interest in writing unfair and inflammatory articles about Apple. I no longer feel that he is singling out Apple and suspect now that this is just his style.

posted by : RP, 18 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Just use Linux

Why bother wasting your money? Just use Linux, instead, and avoid the "gotchas". Choose one: Mandriva, OpenSuse, Fedora, Ubuntu, Mepis, Linux Mint, Debian, Sabayon, PCLinuxOS... Lots of choice, all safe from all known viruses, trojans, worms, spyware...

posted by : LinuxLover, 17 November 2009 Complain about this comment

Most security products are a waste of time

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