@ Regulas - You need to look again. Firefox in 64 bit basically runs like poo. It should definately not be faster unless you it a bug. Do javascript benchmark you will see it's slower in 64bit mode.
Chrome still has a lot of work to do before it convinces linux users. It's an ok browser on windows but still has a few quirks. Safari may be taken up by the masses but will never go that far. Chrome is the real competitor.
Either way it doesn't really matter who wins. Firefox is a decent browser and it's alot older than what you claim. It comes from the netscape 6 days. So no wonder it's showing age.
What firefox did was open the general public to another browser. Wether they use it or not is not a problem but it means lots of people now will go download another browser and won't just stick with the default one!
How come Firefox is bloated when it consumes the least amount of memory of all modern browsers? Just because it has more than 2 buttons by default?
The memory footprint of a browser usually increases with a new version, because it has to do more complex things and be faster at the same time. Trading memory for performance is a standard approach to achieve this.
Anyways 5 years is an eternity in software world, and with all the features / bug fix Firefox had I'm not surprised to see it start to bloat up quite a bit as compared to v1.5 back when I started to use it.
All good features takes up processing time and space, Firefox is so very sweet because of the awesome plugin system, and of course that means using Gecko and all the extra code / speed hit which makes all the plugin access possible.
And there's the awesome bar... I love the damn thing, too many times you can't remember the URL of an article / site, but you remember the title of the article; most times it is the title of the page and it is trivial to find it with awesome bar.
I think Moz is doing a good job coping with the increased code base, and optimize performance where they can.
There's always a tradeoff between feature and performances, Firefox was lean and mean, and over the years became awesome but slower (but hey computers are faster too).
Anyways, use the right tool for the right job. Firefox without any plugins is plenty fast on its own, if that won't satisfy you go for Chrome/Safari; however I can't live without all the plugins now and there's no going back.
Firefox isn't half as bad as you make it sound, at least not yet. It's still a sight better than the competition, and unless mozilla lets success get to their heads which they inevitably will sooner or later, it'll stay that way.
If I had a five year old that had become that bloated and in constant need of medicine to cure it's never ending critical issues, the social services would have taken it into care by now and declared me an unfit parent company.
SEAMONKY sounds So Dubai, OverWhelming Stuff IS Good to Pirate Monkees, Ultee' Being Sold Leadership Position, Waving DOS Colors LikeALL Night Barrage.
SEAMONKY IS & It Was 1963.
How?, SEAMONKEY In Preparing Its Packet For Transmission, Sends packet First, Then prepares GUI. Much Faster Response. By Time SEAMONKEy Up, Packet coming Back, Invisibley, Like that Snipe Ultee'. packet Sent Before DOS Infection Even Knows UlteeMonkee got Goods ONLINE & Page Streaming In so Fast Malware goes defunct....
Even with -=7=-, its just NOT IE Protocol & IF YOU DON'T HAVE COPY OF SEAMONKY READY TO GO, YOU BEE STUPIDEST SHIT EVER MET.
& met plenty dudes. ?theire Ultees' friends. Its Stinky,Stanky WAR.
FLUSH Goes IE, Moz,Chrome & ANY/All Other Stupido Browsers(Of which, there Are thousands).
My Cute Little SeaMonky Does Streaming NOW Too, Runs in 64 bit Envior & KILL Neighbors,errrr,Boss, just for bonus.
Well at least for me. I switched from Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit to Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit that came with the latest release for Firefox. It seems much more responsive than the last version.
LMAO pathetic
Firefox is really great... also are the addons...
@ Regulas - You need to look again. Firefox in 64 bit basically runs like poo. It should definately not be faster unless you it a bug. Do javascript benchmark you will see it's slower in 64bit mode.
Chrome still has a lot of work to do before it convinces linux users. It's an ok browser on windows but still has a few quirks. Safari may be taken up by the masses but will never go that far. Chrome is the real competitor.
Either way it doesn't really matter who wins. Firefox is a decent browser and it's alot older than what you claim. It comes from the netscape 6 days. So no wonder it's showing age.
What firefox did was open the general public to another browser. Wether they use it or not is not a problem but it means lots of people now will go download another browser and won't just stick with the default one!
Opera.
I tried chrome tried to like it. but it just looks to much like a toy and screws up left and right.
When chrome starts looking less kiddish ill give it a go again. Until then. No thanks.
How come Firefox is bloated when it consumes the least amount of memory of all modern browsers? Just because it has more than 2 buttons by default?
The memory footprint of a browser usually increases with a new version, because it has to do more complex things and be faster at the same time. Trading memory for performance is a standard approach to achieve this.
It's only been 5 years? Feels longer.
Anyways 5 years is an eternity in software world, and with all the features / bug fix Firefox had I'm not surprised to see it start to bloat up quite a bit as compared to v1.5 back when I started to use it.
All good features takes up processing time and space, Firefox is so very sweet because of the awesome plugin system, and of course that means using Gecko and all the extra code / speed hit which makes all the plugin access possible.
And there's the awesome bar... I love the damn thing, too many times you can't remember the URL of an article / site, but you remember the title of the article; most times it is the title of the page and it is trivial to find it with awesome bar.
I think Moz is doing a good job coping with the increased code base, and optimize performance where they can.
There's always a tradeoff between feature and performances, Firefox was lean and mean, and over the years became awesome but slower (but hey computers are faster too).
Anyways, use the right tool for the right job. Firefox without any plugins is plenty fast on its own, if that won't satisfy you go for Chrome/Safari; however I can't live without all the plugins now and there's no going back.
FF is big now, it still eats more memory than it should and takes a bit to load.
BUT
IE8 is one slow snail, so noticeable slow I can't stand using it for more than testing if our stuff works there.
Chrome is faster but is still behind on add-ons and has certain annoying quirks rendering (related to webkit).
Regardless of criticisms FF is still the best browser outthere right now.
Firefox isn't half as bad as you make it sound, at least not yet. It's still a sight better than the competition, and unless mozilla lets success get to their heads which they inevitably will sooner or later, it'll stay that way.
If I had a five year old that had become that bloated and in constant need of medicine to cure it's never ending critical issues, the social services would have taken it into care by now and declared me an unfit parent company.
IE 7/8 is terribly slow
FireFerret .. come on now really? .. ugh
Chrome - crashes, doesnt load pages, video files dont display... and worse of all .. ET Phones home all the time.
SRWare Iron - see Chrome without the ET feature.
All in all they all suck.
SEAMONKY sounds So Dubai, OverWhelming Stuff IS Good to Pirate Monkees, Ultee' Being Sold Leadership Position, Waving DOS Colors LikeALL Night Barrage.
SEAMONKY IS & It Was 1963.
How?, SEAMONKEY In Preparing Its Packet For Transmission, Sends packet First, Then prepares GUI. Much Faster Response. By Time SEAMONKEy Up, Packet coming Back, Invisibley, Like that Snipe Ultee'. packet Sent Before DOS Infection Even Knows UlteeMonkee got Goods ONLINE & Page Streaming In so Fast Malware goes defunct....
Even with -=7=-, its just NOT IE Protocol & IF YOU DON'T HAVE COPY OF SEAMONKY READY TO GO, YOU BEE STUPIDEST SHIT EVER MET.
& met plenty dudes. ?theire Ultees' friends. Its Stinky,Stanky WAR.
FLUSH Goes IE, Moz,Chrome & ANY/All Other Stupido Browsers(Of which, there Are thousands).
My Cute Little SeaMonky Does Streaming NOW Too, Runs in 64 bit Envior & KILL Neighbors,errrr,Boss, just for bonus.
drashek
Chrome crashes when i try to play runescape on W7 64. I mean, really? runescape? how the hell does runescape crash? its just java...
Well at least for me. I switched from Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit to Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit that came with the latest release for Firefox. It seems much more responsive than the last version.