Get a grip son and read the FACTS of the case.

When you use a PC for criminal activities in another country, you get prosecuted in the country where the crimes occured. This is to prevent criminals from committing crimes outside their country and failing to be punished for their crimes or getting reduced crimes from sympathetic, pathetic, FOOLS who think PC crimes are not crimes. I'd suggest you have a pint and chill out because your reasoning and knowledge of the subject is seriously flawed.

This whole thing makes me so mad I could spit.

Extraditing a UK citizen for 'crimes' committed on UK soil is unacceptable. It's just not even funny.

Regardless of whether what Gary did was a crime or not he should be tried in the UK under UK law. To claim anything else is crazy talk.

What next?

Shall we send Salman Rushdie to Iran to stand trial for Blasphemy?

"This is impossible. PC's in a network such as exists in every organisation have NO PUBLIC IP, only local addresses (like 192.168.0.50)."

Err I work for a UK organisation where each of our 6000 or so computers on the network has a public IP address.

Oops do not feed the trolls. I failed.

Denial has never changed law so you might as well kiss Gary's arse goodbye as he ships off to America to be punished for his crimes.

Phuck around and go to prison. That's how things work in the real world.

First off, here's a technical clueflash for "hidflect": your lack of knowledge and experience ("that WILL NOT EVEN INSTALL without first inputting a password" and pontification about "the installation code") disqualifies you from dishing out assessments about whether something is "impossible". Please upgrade your Microsoft Junior Administrator GCSE to something credible.

Now here's a non-technical clueflash for all the Ameritards who think that sending some random bloke to your overfilled prisons to "teach them a lesson not to mess with Uncle Sam" is a good idea. This just gives yet another reason for people not to bother with "legal redress" when dealing with the USA. After years of illicit torture programmes, all ostensibly under the illusion that it's in the nation's interest (which as an excuse only upsets everyone else on the planet even more), there's little respect left for American justice. Pretending that you are so tough - it's amusing how such idiots think that American brutality makes them big men on an individual level - just makes you look like cruel little bullies.

Of course, the Lords of the Britards and everyone else should be ripping up their extradition agreements with the USA given the complete unlikelihood of anyone being brought before the beak for the US rendition programmes (amongst a catalogue of crimes), but I'm sure the ghost of Tony Blair will stop any such thing happening in the name of the "special relationship" (also known as the betrayal of the Britards).

His asperger's defense is a crock, but it's a waste of money and time to prosecute him here, and the damage is already done. What, are we afraid he'll do it again? Let the UK handle it.

Let's admit our web security just sucked and spend the money on making it better.

@hidflect

what you said makes no IT sense whatsoever. of course PCs can have public IP addresses.
And servers are not inherently more secure than desktops, unless you make them so.
You fail. I suggest you take a different IT class.

Anyone with IT knowledge can see that Gary McKinnon is lying in his BBC "Click" interview about how he "hacked" into military and government installations. He says he scanned for the IP's of PC's that had no password.

This is impossible. PC's in a network such as exists in every organisation have NO PUBLIC IP, only local addresses (like 192.168.0.50). Only the server has access to a public IP. And that WILL NOT EVEN INSTALL without first inputting a password. It is written in the installation code. You also cannot remove the password afterwards. Brevity forbids me from writing pages on the details. Just ask any IT Engineer.

The conclusion is: he is obviously a patsy. An outer "wannabe" member of a gang taking the rap for others and unwilling to give them up out of a misplaced sense of loyalty, a feeling of grandiosity and a Joan of Arc complex. This is obvious from the fact he was not even clued in enough to use a simple anonymous proxy and avoid detection. This also explains why the Americans are SO eager to get their hands on him precisely because they know this and want to sweat him for the connection to the real hackers.

He admitted he hacked the computers. This is a crime. Our laws say he must be tried in the US. There is an extradition treaty.

Let's get on with it.

Buy a clue
For the clueless...

"The crime(s) were committed in the U.S. while operating a PC from the U.K. That is why countries have extradition agreements"

If you go with this idea then we should extradite a lot of our own people for what other country consider elegal and where perpertrated there. Carefull what propaganda you spout out since your not immune to it with your analogy.

On January 31, 2007, a court in Munich, Germany issued warrants for the arrest of 13 CIA agents accused of kidnapping Khaled el-Masri, a German citizen, and bringing him to Afghanistan to be tortured as part of the United States's extraordinary rendition program.

We should give them these citizen and don't come back with the useless analogy that they where working for our Gov. that does not excuse in your world view that they did something illegal in another country.

With all this bad publicity about this case, I believe the case should be thrown out of court, how is this man to be able to receive a fair and unbiased trial. Any jury members have already been compromised by hearing all these prejudiced statements.

He is NOT an enemy of the American state, they should be asking and indeed paying him for his help to put right what was obviously a useless security system.

... we're waiting.

The foolishness presented by the McKinnon fanbois is pretty absurd. My suggestion is that if you believe the nonsense you spew - tell it to the jury and see if it changes law or reality.

You do seem one sided since you already treat Gary as a scumbag, yet both Presidents Bush did more harm killing more people.
And Gary wasn't on US soil, he was in UK.

The US Mil won't stand down anymore, they wanted to make an example of gary, and they have. But by being sooo heavy handed, they have made themselves out to be the clueless twats they are.
They couldn't give up now if they wanted to.
What do you think they are going to tell a jury ? "He managed to get in thru unprotected military computers cos we were too stupid to lock them down properly; And for that he must be punished."

Given that " of what US prosecutors have called "the biggest military computer hack of all time" " is clearly and demonstrably false, surely there are grounds for libel on several fronts regards the above statement. Has that statement or something like it been made in a court of law?

For the clueless...

The crime(s) were committed in the U.S. while operating a PC from the U.K. That is why countries have extradition agreements to prevent scumbags like McKinnon from trying to hide in another country after committing crimes in the U.S.

“In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence."

It could be argued that he should be tried in Britain since his crime was committed in Britain rather than America and the US Supreme Court has ruled in the past that US Constitutional protections apply to non-US Citizens as well...

in order to find hidden evidence of UFOs.

Yeah, if it hits the news in the US, how hard are they going to try to downplay the whole "little green men" angle? Should be extremely entertaining to watch the interviews on CNN if they even mention it.

Hey- Hows McQuizzon Secutiry Threat Directly? Arn't there Some Whom had access, except IS IT That Exclusive?

McKinnon Came thru Front door With Loud Crash, while Doubtful THAT System Was Even Secure, At ALL.

I'd Call thePREZ, Say Mista' Prez, Got Autism & Invented Way To Couter Machine Code & Forgot IT,Actually IT Was Fake WebSite.
Get Me To Australia. Seek Asylum in Alps, Yes,Yes?
Drashek , Mckinnon & Madoff PLP

I should hope if worse comes to worse, and Gary is facing a US trial, then there be a celebrity Brit-aid music- fest so GM may win in the US public's "court of popular opinonion".