in mac ads, they are referring to PC as windows OS.. why not fight fire with fire by licensing out OSX and let the users experience and decide what's best for them minus the burden of over priced hardware.. this shows bad impression as others may think that OSX is only good in contained environment and not in other OEMs.. which is not.. 'cause jobs's NEXT operates in many platforms and he can do it in OSX..
in mac ads, they are referring to PC as windows OS.. why not fight fire with fire by licensing out OSX and let the users experience and decide what's best for them minus the burden of over priced hardware.. this shows bad impression as others may think that OSX is only good in contained environment and not in other OEMs.. which is not.. 'cause jobs's NEXT operates in many platforms and he do it in apple..
"that the exclusive statutory right to "vend" applied only to the first sale of the copyrighted work"
Is Psystar a licenced reseller or vendor of Apple kit? Or, are they aiding and abetting by enabling the unintiated to knowingly/unknowingly commit fraud toward Apple and deprive Apple of income and reputation; and also by Pystar's misrepresentation, advertisements, claims of expertise and vending as a supplier to produce a counterfeit, and possibly to also defraud, networks and other IT apparattuses, protocols, society and the public...
malignité du coeur de satisfaites dans ce principe, et l’intérêt y est opposé. Laissez faire, morbleu! Laissez faire!!
who steal everything they can, just digg a bit and you'll find out. os x86 community is quite pissed off with them for stealing someone's hard work and selling it. they completely lack an kind of common sense, bunch of assholes
Apple doesnt want marketshare. Their buisness model and state of software couldnt handle it.
If OSX were to suddenly find itself on the PC market, everyone would realize that OSX is useless, buggy, and very insecure to boot. It does just fine in a contained enviroment with minimal market share and users who cant operate a standard mouse. Outside of that very specific enviroment, it all falls to hell.
Have you seen the price difference between equally specified Mac and Windows based PCs? The only functional difference between the two is the OS, so your claim that OSX is cheaper than Windows simply doesn't ring true.
They may sell OSX on its own (relatively) cheaply, but the only people for whom that's of any use are those who have already paid through the nose for the privilege in the first place.
I think Apple should be happy that Psystar is doing this. Apple needs more market share to combat Microsoft if it wants to be a viable and profitable OS platform. So as I see it. It,s a win win for Apple, INC. They need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Psystar will [eventually] be crushed for the simple fact that Apple will no longer be able to charge for their over-priced hardware. As previous person stated, OSX pricing will go through the roof... as much as (gosh) Windows...
It looks like Psystar's waging a holy war on Apple. They basically said "fuck ya'll!" and ran toward Apple with explosives strapped on their back, fuses lit.
Quote: "There is only one company that would benefit from Psystar polluting the Mac Market with clones while also destroying the GPL. VOLE!!!"
So each PC that Psystar sells with a copy of OS X legally bought from Apple benefits Microsoft?
Really? Because the only way I see that happening, is when the buyer realises that the programs included with OS X are so buggy that they crash way more often then their Windows box, and deletes OS X to install a more stable OS.
But Microsoft would only benefit here if the buyer decides to buy Windows 7 rather then using an old Windows XP disc.
Anyone stupid enough to join Psystar's suicide attempt deserves to go down in flames with them. There is only one company that would benefit from Psystar polluting the Mac Market with clones while also destroying the GPL. VOLE!!!
In fact, how will this affect software licensing at all?
Like Apple, the GPL places conditions upon how you use its software. It doesnt specify how you might have obtained it.
If I buy Mac POS X - or download Linux - I have to obey the licensing conditions. It doesnt matter whether I got it off the Pirate Bay, the server in Stallmans bedroom, or the flagship Apple Store in Cupertino.
AIUI, the First Sale Doctrine says that neither Linus nor His Holiness the Steve can stop me giving or selling that copy to someone else. What it *doesnt* say is that the person I give/sell it to is then free to ride roughshod over the licensing agreement.
Maybe Im missing something, but it seems to me that such an interpretation would open a *major* loophole?
The text you quoted "This means that the copyright holder's rights to control the change of ownership of a particular copy end once that copy is sold, as long as no additional copies are made."
Really says this: If Apple sells copies of OSX to Phystar, Apple does not have the right to stop Psystar from selling those copies to other people, as long as Psyster doesn't make new copies.
In other words, Psystar is a computer manufacturer and OSX reseller. Nothing wrong with selling both at the same time. Also, nothing wrong with 'saying' that a particular OS can be installed on a particular computer. :)
"This means that the copyright holder's rights to control the change of ownership of a particular copy end once that copy is sold, as long as no additional copies are made."
So the copy they put on your non-apple machine cant be sold on - so Psystar can sell you a machine and the install cd but not preinstalled.
You may, for a while, get OSX for non Apple machines but not for long.
Why bother?
Problem is, even though I object to EULAs and Software Licensing, without it the GPL is just another piece of toilet paper and all it's protection is gone for good.
And I object to letting someone reap the reward for doing nothing in its own right (not developing the software of the os, not developing the hackintosh tools at first, just using what knowledge is there and than asking money for this - cheap tards...)
someone else!
Its a no win game they're playing:
If they win Apple. Apples wont be exclusive anymore and half their users will have to find something else to pose with.
Also Apple will have to make the profit they want out of the OS and not the hardware so the OS price will go up and Psystar will be out of a job.
I'd like to see who's really behind Psystar.
in mac ads, they are referring to PC as windows OS.. why not fight fire with fire by licensing out OSX and let the users experience and decide what's best for them minus the burden of over priced hardware.. this shows bad impression as others may think that OSX is only good in contained environment and not in other OEMs.. which is not.. 'cause jobs's NEXT operates in many platforms and he can do it in OSX..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lrjsG_esX0
in mac ads, they are referring to PC as windows OS.. why not fight fire with fire by licensing out OSX and let the users experience and decide what's best for them minus the burden of over priced hardware.. this shows bad impression as others may think that OSX is only good in contained environment and not in other OEMs.. which is not.. 'cause jobs's NEXT operates in many platforms and he do it in apple..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lrjsG_esX0
"that the exclusive statutory right to "vend" applied only to the first sale of the copyrighted work"
Is Psystar a licenced reseller or vendor of Apple kit? Or, are they aiding and abetting by enabling the unintiated to knowingly/unknowingly commit fraud toward Apple and deprive Apple of income and reputation; and also by Pystar's misrepresentation, advertisements, claims of expertise and vending as a supplier to produce a counterfeit, and possibly to also defraud, networks and other IT apparattuses, protocols, society and the public...
malignité du coeur de satisfaites dans ce principe, et l’intérêt y est opposé. Laissez faire, morbleu! Laissez faire!!
Pardon someone's French.
Non non non. Laissez-nous faire!!!
qu'ils mangent de la brioche of contract.
hexx...welcome to the world of BSD licensing.
who steal everything they can, just digg a bit and you'll find out. os x86 community is quite pissed off with them for stealing someone's hard work and selling it. they completely lack an kind of common sense, bunch of assholes
Apple doesnt want marketshare. Their buisness model and state of software couldnt handle it.
If OSX were to suddenly find itself on the PC market, everyone would realize that OSX is useless, buggy, and very insecure to boot. It does just fine in a contained enviroment with minimal market share and users who cant operate a standard mouse. Outside of that very specific enviroment, it all falls to hell.
Have you seen the price difference between equally specified Mac and Windows based PCs? The only functional difference between the two is the OS, so your claim that OSX is cheaper than Windows simply doesn't ring true.
They may sell OSX on its own (relatively) cheaply, but the only people for whom that's of any use are those who have already paid through the nose for the privilege in the first place.
I think Apple should be happy that Psystar is doing this. Apple needs more market share to combat Microsoft if it wants to be a viable and profitable OS platform. So as I see it. It,s a win win for Apple, INC. They need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Psystar will [eventually] be crushed for the simple fact that Apple will no longer be able to charge for their over-priced hardware. As previous person stated, OSX pricing will go through the roof... as much as (gosh) Windows...
It looks like Psystar's waging a holy war on Apple. They basically said "fuck ya'll!" and ran toward Apple with explosives strapped on their back, fuses lit.
Quote: "There is only one company that would benefit from Psystar polluting the Mac Market with clones while also destroying the GPL. VOLE!!!"
So each PC that Psystar sells with a copy of OS X legally bought from Apple benefits Microsoft?
Really? Because the only way I see that happening, is when the buyer realises that the programs included with OS X are so buggy that they crash way more often then their Windows box, and deletes OS X to install a more stable OS.
But Microsoft would only benefit here if the buyer decides to buy Windows 7 rather then using an old Windows XP disc.
Anyone stupid enough to join Psystar's suicide attempt deserves to go down in flames with them. There is only one company that would benefit from Psystar polluting the Mac Market with clones while also destroying the GPL. VOLE!!!
In fact, how will this affect software licensing at all?
Like Apple, the GPL places conditions upon how you use its software. It doesnt specify how you might have obtained it.
If I buy Mac POS X - or download Linux - I have to obey the licensing conditions. It doesnt matter whether I got it off the Pirate Bay, the server in Stallmans bedroom, or the flagship Apple Store in Cupertino.
AIUI, the First Sale Doctrine says that neither Linus nor His Holiness the Steve can stop me giving or selling that copy to someone else. What it *doesnt* say is that the person I give/sell it to is then free to ride roughshod over the licensing agreement.
Maybe Im missing something, but it seems to me that such an interpretation would open a *major* loophole?
IANAL etc
The text you quoted "This means that the copyright holder's rights to control the change of ownership of a particular copy end once that copy is sold, as long as no additional copies are made."
Really says this: If Apple sells copies of OSX to Phystar, Apple does not have the right to stop Psystar from selling those copies to other people, as long as Psyster doesn't make new copies.
In other words, Psystar is a computer manufacturer and OSX reseller. Nothing wrong with selling both at the same time. Also, nothing wrong with 'saying' that a particular OS can be installed on a particular computer. :)
"This means that the copyright holder's rights to control the change of ownership of a particular copy end once that copy is sold, as long as no additional copies are made."
So the copy they put on your non-apple machine cant be sold on - so Psystar can sell you a machine and the install cd but not preinstalled.
You may, for a while, get OSX for non Apple machines but not for long.
Why bother?
Problem is, even though I object to EULAs and Software Licensing, without it the GPL is just another piece of toilet paper and all it's protection is gone for good.
And I object to letting someone reap the reward for doing nothing in its own right (not developing the software of the os, not developing the hackintosh tools at first, just using what knowledge is there and than asking money for this - cheap tards...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine
Apple is toast
ahahahhahaha!!
Now maybe someone can sue steam so we can sell our bloody old games without selling our accounts...
someone else!
Its a no win game they're playing:
If they win Apple. Apples wont be exclusive anymore and half their users will have to find something else to pose with.
Also Apple will have to make the profit they want out of the OS and not the hardware so the OS price will go up and Psystar will be out of a job.
I'd like to see who's really behind Psystar.