Intel's website says that the W5590 does not support turbo boost (and
doesn't mention anything about whether it supports hyperthreading). I
emailed Intel presales and called them and both times, they
confirmed that the W5590 does not support hyperthreading. Are you sure
it supports turbo boost, and do you know if it supports
hyperthreading?
See http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=37113,41643,
The comment about that Tyan board is incorrect. The Ram/QPI over ride on that board doesnt work. It will still defualt to the standard settings for the cpu's installed. Also that board has a bios issue with Nvidia 295 GTX cards. When you get to windows half of the system devices wont load because of a resource conflict likely due to the Dual GPU's. Tyan is aware of the issue but has not come up with a fix yet.
Tyan makes excellent mobos mostly for the server market. So most of their stuff does not do SLI or Crossfire. Instead you plug great big hardware RAID cards into those PCIe slots.
Like the Internet in 1992, virtualization in 2000, the GPU computing power is there to take over computing industry. Those that adopt it early reap the early benefits of it.
As for Intel, go make a Larrabee with crappy drivers, produce it in numbers before DNF comes out. I remember i740 and the cripple ware that comes with a netbook.
The CPU as we know it, is dead, long live the merger. And lets not hope the CPU/GPU goes the way of the soundcard, 'cuz that would suck.
But that, is my personal experience and opinion.... Just keep on doing the great job Francios, no hard NV feelings here.
NO SPEC_FP_RATE on GPU? THEN GPU not Flexible enough?
To the GPU lovers ...
For the moment, you was given example of GPGPU usage that are corner cases, as long as you don t see a Spec_fp_rate score, this mean that the GPGPU is UNCAPABLE of running it ... then, it means that the GPGPU can not run the workload chosen by the industy to calculate the best processing machine ...
so, stop "bothering" the medias with corner cases running CUDA, and start providing Spec_Fp_rate scores, without this, you are just promoting something that IS NOT a generic solution and will end up as the MPACT! card from Chromatics ...
PS: This is my very personal opinion, prove me wrong, show me the Specs_fp and spec_int score, then you can speak again.
after your recent SSD desaster, even some more record-breaking sandra results! really can't wait for the second part, that stuff gives me chuckles every time.
How it coordinates two processors into one 16x slot, if it does, for mere 6 grand. Usually theres primary side for graphics with secondary side. This might be new. If it configures automatically, great.
NEXT: also old as yesterday is HTML 5 standard here:
HTML 5 in its current draft form includes a number of significant advancements, notably several that make the Web a better foundation for applications, not just static Web pages. Among the present HTML 5 features are built-in video and audio, the ability to store data on a local computer to enable use of Web applications even when offline, Web Workers that can perform computational chores in the background without bogging down Web application responsiveness, Canvas for creating sophisticated two-dimensional graphics, and drag-and-drop for better Web application user interfaces.
Both apple & google claim to have already established html 5, so Microsoft wants industry standard set, so now blogging to that end. Sooner than previously reported.
neither 6 grand workstation or new html standard are guarentee of stable intenet connection to browser. CABLE is better. Remember $600 Cobalt modem from 1998? People are desperate for reliable connection, yet even today, modem & proxy server setting are loss to browser, refusing to find webpages while still actually on internet..its' continuos mess, what good is such power refinement if its stuck in mud? Forget reliable speed with dsl, too. Seems Hardware & software have advanced, yet missed entire point.?Workstation?
Nice stuff too bad about SLI MIA, not one but 3 extra PCIe slots are missing. Convergence of CPU&GPU cycles and all. But yeah, this box should be able beat a GF260c216 on BarsWF handily, yes yes.
I can assure you that a lot of mechanical engineers are drooling over this machine. Modern 3D modeling tools don't use GPGPU's. Programs like Pro/Engineer, SolidWorks, SolidEdge or Inventor mostly need super fast graphics, heavy memory bandwidth and all the memory capacity you can throw at it. SolidWorks recommends "x64 processor with 6GB or more" for the larger 3D models. It's quite difficult to even use all the 8 cores for 3D CAD but most mechanical engineers also use finite element modeling for stress analysis. Until GPGPU's can be used for FEM this machine will be the tool of choice for at lot of professionals.
Proper cooling is not executed with fans on the memory. Simply place a 24" boxfan so it blows perpendicular to the motherboard! That's how I do it! :P Seriously you will get incredibly improved temps.
[i]But then, remember, this is a high-end workstation setup, meant for complex 3D CAD and engineering modeling, virtual reality design, IC simulation or computational science - almost a personal supercomputer with near 100 GFLOPs performance in Linpack benchmarks[/i]
Cool but...i have about 2 TFlops on my home pc, not counting the CPU of course. When will developers turn to GPGPU ??
Intel's website says that the W5590 does not support turbo boost (and
doesn't mention anything about whether it supports hyperthreading). I
emailed Intel presales and called them and both times, they
confirmed that the W5590 does not support hyperthreading. Are you sure
it supports turbo boost, and do you know if it supports
hyperthreading?
See http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=37113,41643,
The comment about that Tyan board is incorrect. The Ram/QPI over ride on that board doesnt work. It will still defualt to the standard settings for the cpu's installed. Also that board has a bios issue with Nvidia 295 GTX cards. When you get to windows half of the system devices wont load because of a resource conflict likely due to the Dual GPU's. Tyan is aware of the issue but has not come up with a fix yet.
Get an education.
So it's Tuesday. Where the hell is part 2?
Tyan makes excellent mobos mostly for the server market. So most of their stuff does not do SLI or Crossfire. Instead you plug great big hardware RAID cards into those PCIe slots.
Intel sucks.
Like the Internet in 1992, virtualization in 2000, the GPU computing power is there to take over computing industry. Those that adopt it early reap the early benefits of it.
As for Intel, go make a Larrabee with crappy drivers, produce it in numbers before DNF comes out. I remember i740 and the cripple ware that comes with a netbook.
The CPU as we know it, is dead, long live the merger. And lets not hope the CPU/GPU goes the way of the soundcard, 'cuz that would suck.
But that, is my personal experience and opinion.... Just keep on doing the great job Francios, no hard NV feelings here.
To the GPU lovers ...
For the moment, you was given example of GPGPU usage that are corner cases, as long as you don t see a Spec_fp_rate score, this mean that the GPGPU is UNCAPABLE of running it ... then, it means that the GPGPU can not run the workload chosen by the industy to calculate the best processing machine ...
so, stop "bothering" the medias with corner cases running CUDA, and start providing Spec_Fp_rate scores, without this, you are just promoting something that IS NOT a generic solution and will end up as the MPACT! card from Chromatics ...
PS: This is my very personal opinion, prove me wrong, show me the Specs_fp and spec_int score, then you can speak again.
after your recent SSD desaster, even some more record-breaking sandra results! really can't wait for the second part, that stuff gives me chuckles every time.
How much? How many KW?
I have a lowly Q9650 with 8GB ddr2 and I am running 24/24 - 7/7 a turbulence simulation code since last February and probably finish by December next.
I could do with something better.
GPUs are not much help for code dominated by serial calcs.
How it coordinates two processors into one 16x slot, if it does, for mere 6 grand. Usually theres primary side for graphics with secondary side. This might be new. If it configures automatically, great.
NEXT: also old as yesterday is HTML 5 standard here:
HTML 5 in its current draft form includes a number of significant advancements, notably several that make the Web a better foundation for applications, not just static Web pages. Among the present HTML 5 features are built-in video and audio, the ability to store data on a local computer to enable use of Web applications even when offline, Web Workers that can perform computational chores in the background without bogging down Web application responsiveness, Canvas for creating sophisticated two-dimensional graphics, and drag-and-drop for better Web application user interfaces.
Both apple & google claim to have already established html 5, so Microsoft wants industry standard set, so now blogging to that end. Sooner than previously reported.
neither 6 grand workstation or new html standard are guarentee of stable intenet connection to browser. CABLE is better. Remember $600 Cobalt modem from 1998? People are desperate for reliable connection, yet even today, modem & proxy server setting are loss to browser, refusing to find webpages while still actually on internet..its' continuos mess, what good is such power refinement if its stuck in mud? Forget reliable speed with dsl, too. Seems Hardware & software have advanced, yet missed entire point.?Workstation?
vondrashek
Nice stuff too bad about SLI MIA, not one but 3 extra PCIe slots are missing. Convergence of CPU&GPU cycles and all. But yeah, this box should be able beat a GF260c216 on BarsWF handily, yes yes.
I can assure you that a lot of mechanical engineers are drooling over this machine. Modern 3D modeling tools don't use GPGPU's. Programs like Pro/Engineer, SolidWorks, SolidEdge or Inventor mostly need super fast graphics, heavy memory bandwidth and all the memory capacity you can throw at it. SolidWorks recommends "x64 processor with 6GB or more" for the larger 3D models. It's quite difficult to even use all the 8 cores for 3D CAD but most mechanical engineers also use finite element modeling for stress analysis. Until GPGPU's can be used for FEM this machine will be the tool of choice for at lot of professionals.
Best regards
Tomas
Proper cooling is not executed with fans on the memory. Simply place a 24" boxfan so it blows perpendicular to the motherboard! That's how I do it! :P Seriously you will get incredibly improved temps.
[i]But then, remember, this is a high-end workstation setup, meant for complex 3D CAD and engineering modeling, virtual reality design, IC simulation or computational science - almost a personal supercomputer with near 100 GFLOPs performance in Linpack benchmarks[/i]
Cool but...i have about 2 TFlops on my home pc, not counting the CPU of course. When will developers turn to GPGPU ??
How much?