T-Mobile USA just announced yesterday that they will be making the HTC Touch Pro 2 availalbe from August 12th onwards. This handset is more than ready to take over where the HTC Touch Pro left off, and the US release comes quite late long after the handset was made available to folks living across the Atlantic as well as in Asia.
I bought the pro2, and am suffering from some buyer's remorse.. The zoom bar doesn't actually work (might be a defective unit? It sometimes works if I apply a shitload of pressure), and the screen is selectively responsive. When you're scrolling the applications in the start menu, it will select some app at a whim, whereas it takes quite some persistence to select a hyperlink in opera, for example. The appstore is something apple got right; I've got to hunt down apps on the web (or xda-developers) and 80% of the time they won't work for some lame reason, or they require additional .dlls(!). Don't get me wrong, the phone does what it promises to do - except it all takes so much effort! You end up feeling that, yes, all those features are really nice, but it's obviously a prototype for next year's iPhone...
It's not that nobody wants OSX, it's just that to "legally" use OSX you must pay for Apple's overpriced hardware.
Apple is a hardware company first, and a software company second. So even if they make decent software and OSes, you're stuck buying the "complete package" to use it.
I agree, Apple knows how to sell a phone and they do so because the majority want something simple and no complications. I don't debate that Apple aren't onto a winner and good on them.. I just don't like how their smug propaganda touts that their OS is the BEST in every way or how they aren’t susceptible to viruses and such. Microsoft don't say their gear is the best its up to the user to choose.. Unfortunately a lot of people listen to Apple commercials and they are actually deluded into thinking that their phone is the best... I have had arguments where users swear black and blue that it’s the best thing ever and all they have seen are a few ads... I tell you its like a sickness...
Complain about the iPhone all you want and debate about how it's classified, whether or not it's a "real" smartphone, etc.
I don't think Apple cares.
They're busy making a product that's so desirable to consumers that despite being tied to one carrier and only offering one form factor they've already sold ~20M units and have more market share than Windows Mobile even though WM had a 5+ year head start. If WM is so great, why doesn't anybody (besides you guys) want it?
@imad exactly!
Iphone is just a phone... The lack of multitasking means it is a pathetic excuse for a smart phone. If a phone is running window mobile or even Android it can actually be classified as a smart phone. Do you think business people, IT pros, power users want to be restricted by some pathetic single task orientated operating system? If you take a look at the majority of Apple's user base you will realise that average people like average phones / computers which a small minority of exceptions. Options and functionality are classified as "complicated stuffs" for normal people... PS if you want an awesome phone check out the samsung b7610... it slays the touch pro 2!
This is not a problem, I flashed my touch hd to wm6.5, I'll do the same to this baby. Touch flo is now ok, but I still kind of like the power of wm stuff, touch flo is more like "dumb-and-pretty" layer for people with stylus disability. I actually removed touch flow altogether from phone and using "plain" wm6.5. THat the beauty of WM phones, tweak it to your delight...
I wander why people are obsessed with Iphone OS or android, knowing that BOTH of them do not even have the features of windows mobile
Windows mobile is a real full OS, multitasking, threading, programmable using Visual Studio and capable of running enterprise applictions, plus can run games.....
however, Iphone OS, is just a multitouch toy, for teenagers, impressed with graphics... it didnt even have a copy/paste function till version 3!!!!
REgarding android, same as all apple applications, it has a VERY UGLY design....
strange how people hate windows mobile even though they NEVER used that or know what it is.
Finally, IPHONE is a phone, while windows mobile is an OS..... just maybe this helps to start with!!!
android is horrid, why would windows phone try to catch up with that??
i prefer my htc over my iphone, only thing that is better on the iphone is the web browsing, but other then that i prefer my htc touch pro, cant wait for the touch pro 2.
There is an FM radio on the touch pro2, it just seems that the radio app was 'forgotten' about in some regions by HTC.
The brainiacs at xda-developers made a .cab file to install the radio app.
T-Mobile USA just announced yesterday that they will be making the HTC Touch Pro 2 availalbe from August 12th onwards. This handset is more than ready to take over where the HTC Touch Pro left off, and the US release comes quite late long after the handset was made available to folks living across the Atlantic as well as in Asia.
http://www.pupuweb.com/blog/t-mobile-usa-announced-htc-touch-pro-2-available/
I was thinking that with the hi res screen and the keyboard it would be a very nice android phone... :P
I bought the pro2, and am suffering from some buyer's remorse.. The zoom bar doesn't actually work (might be a defective unit? It sometimes works if I apply a shitload of pressure), and the screen is selectively responsive. When you're scrolling the applications in the start menu, it will select some app at a whim, whereas it takes quite some persistence to select a hyperlink in opera, for example. The appstore is something apple got right; I've got to hunt down apps on the web (or xda-developers) and 80% of the time they won't work for some lame reason, or they require additional .dlls(!). Don't get me wrong, the phone does what it promises to do - except it all takes so much effort! You end up feeling that, yes, all those features are really nice, but it's obviously a prototype for next year's iPhone...
It's not that nobody wants OSX, it's just that to "legally" use OSX you must pay for Apple's overpriced hardware.
Apple is a hardware company first, and a software company second. So even if they make decent software and OSes, you're stuck buying the "complete package" to use it.
I agree, Apple knows how to sell a phone and they do so because the majority want something simple and no complications. I don't debate that Apple aren't onto a winner and good on them.. I just don't like how their smug propaganda touts that their OS is the BEST in every way or how they aren’t susceptible to viruses and such. Microsoft don't say their gear is the best its up to the user to choose.. Unfortunately a lot of people listen to Apple commercials and they are actually deluded into thinking that their phone is the best... I have had arguments where users swear black and blue that it’s the best thing ever and all they have seen are a few ads... I tell you its like a sickness...
Funny how Windows is the lowest common denominator OS with a commanding lead in marketshare, but the iPhone is brilliance in the same situation.
If OSX is so great, how come no one except MacHeads want it?
Complain about the iPhone all you want and debate about how it's classified, whether or not it's a "real" smartphone, etc.
I don't think Apple cares.
They're busy making a product that's so desirable to consumers that despite being tied to one carrier and only offering one form factor they've already sold ~20M units and have more market share than Windows Mobile even though WM had a 5+ year head start. If WM is so great, why doesn't anybody (besides you guys) want it?
@imad exactly!
Iphone is just a phone... The lack of multitasking means it is a pathetic excuse for a smart phone. If a phone is running window mobile or even Android it can actually be classified as a smart phone. Do you think business people, IT pros, power users want to be restricted by some pathetic single task orientated operating system? If you take a look at the majority of Apple's user base you will realise that average people like average phones / computers which a small minority of exceptions. Options and functionality are classified as "complicated stuffs" for normal people... PS if you want an awesome phone check out the samsung b7610... it slays the touch pro 2!
Actually the iPhone is an iPod touch with a phone lashed onto it!
This is not a problem, I flashed my touch hd to wm6.5, I'll do the same to this baby. Touch flo is now ok, but I still kind of like the power of wm stuff, touch flo is more like "dumb-and-pretty" layer for people with stylus disability. I actually removed touch flow altogether from phone and using "plain" wm6.5. THat the beauty of WM phones, tweak it to your delight...
I wander why people are obsessed with Iphone OS or android, knowing that BOTH of them do not even have the features of windows mobile
Windows mobile is a real full OS, multitasking, threading, programmable using Visual Studio and capable of running enterprise applictions, plus can run games.....
however, Iphone OS, is just a multitouch toy, for teenagers, impressed with graphics... it didnt even have a copy/paste function till version 3!!!!
REgarding android, same as all apple applications, it has a VERY UGLY design....
strange how people hate windows mobile even though they NEVER used that or know what it is.
Finally, IPHONE is a phone, while windows mobile is an OS..... just maybe this helps to start with!!!
android is horrid, why would windows phone try to catch up with that??
i prefer my htc over my iphone, only thing that is better on the iphone is the web browsing, but other then that i prefer my htc touch pro, cant wait for the touch pro 2.
There is an FM radio on the touch pro2, it just seems that the radio app was 'forgotten' about in some regions by HTC.
The brainiacs at xda-developers made a .cab file to install the radio app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521356