@observer...
"dangerous suburbs" is what the police should look at. Why is there a law when something is "dangerous".
If the police are so effective, then why is it dangerous??
I am an indian citizen who wants to become an australian fighter pilot but my visa screening is so difficult. if its difficult for me, then how did these middle eastern get their visa??
so how effective is the system??
someone like me who wants to join the RAAF cant, but ppl who want to mug other ppl get their visa.
no disrespect of course, indians in general give the perception of being small (hence easy to pick on as opposed to pacific islanders, lebanese, middle eastern types etc) but well educated and must be very rich to afford to come to aus. heres news for you indians, your typical aussie is not racist... as opposed to what i have studied about your caste system... these attacks are opportunistic... what has failed you here is that lack of local education about dos and donts here in melbourne, who the hell walks through a park in a dangerous suburb? that is just asking for it. In light of recent events... you guys really need to growup instead of throwing tantrums or burning effigies... this really reflects poor on you guys...
Perhaps aussies forget the fact that most of the Indians PAY huge fees and study here with an intend to work and contribute to the economy and society, unlike people who get on boats and get here. Indians are generally tolerant and due to strict visa rules try every bit to stay out of trouble. They have every right to ask for protection. If there are criminal elements in the society its the responsibility of police to put additional beat and get rid of it. Evbody knows of places that are known for their violent incidents but the police is completely ignorant. What's wrong with having a permanent kiosk at troubled railway stations? Blaming the victim is washing your hands off the real issue. The Victorian Premier has time and again supported his police chief and failed to acknowledge that there is an issue of increasing violence in the society, not just againt indians but others. I am an Indian myself and have lived in the inner east of melbourne for past 6 Years. I never believed there was a racial side to any of the attacks in melbourne. But I was completly taken back, when my partner was followed by and asked of her nationality by a stranger on her way to the local gym. Police Chief Simon Overland in his press release said Indians are easy targets. What if I go back and look for the stranger and beat the shit out of him. Is this what Simon wishes Indians shud do. I am a citizen of Australia and am an aussie now. I try and grasp every thing aussie. I love this country.
People get assaulted in the city
every single weekend, it's nothing new.
I'm 24 white Aussie male and i have been attacked and assaulted myself. If you are in the wrong place at the wrong time you will get trouble.
I live in Norway, 99% of white norwegians will deny being rascist or that Norway is rascist. But ofcourse it is. We're keeping 'em down allright, you know, with "social" programs and the like.
The Case study. Technical Aspect of what happened in RAAF
I'm a White too.But I believe this Racism should stop.
"When Governments fail to provide a solution to Social extremism, people react." - says Following article:
a href="http://www.taranfx.com/blog/?p=1426" RAAF case study. /a
http://www.taranfx.com/blog/?p=1426
I'm white, big, and I've lived here all my life and *I* wouldn't walk home in the dark at midnight from those train stations. If I did, I'd expect to be assaulted too.
This.
Seriously, they just need to appreciate where they've chosen to live and act accordingly.
Sure it's a problem, but i'm sure it always is in those sorts of areas.
It might help to know that Australia has a somewhat odd arrangement for bypassing immigration queues. Turn up, pay some local crooks AUD20-40K for a cookery or haircutting course, do 900 hours of "unpaid" labour (if you're lucky---often, you pay *them*) in one of their mates' businesses, and you're in.
Of course, if you're poor to begin with and borrowed the first part of your payment at usurious rates, you end up working shitty late-night small-amounts-of-cash-in-hand jobs and living at the ends of the urban train network.
This "business" is worth AUD15B/year.
I'm white, big, and I've lived here all my life and *I* wouldn't walk home in the dark at midnight from those train stations. If I did, I'd expect to be assaulted too.
So forget racism, at least in this matter. There are violent bits of Australia's large cities, and it doesn't much matter what colour you are if you're afoot there at midnight.
I commute on the melbourne trains and yes there is a large majority of indian students. but it isnt the true blue aussies attacking these indian students.
its those fucking lebs and middle eastern young males attacking them, im not being racist here, cause its true. i see it all the time, they run rampant on the trains stealing phones and wallets and they think they are tough.
Australia is very multi-cultural. but out of all the races here, middle eastern people do not fit in.
they are racist themselves, irritable, violent and selfish. and its not the immigrant middle eastern people. its the sons of those.the second generation who get a western life but middle eastern rules who think its ok to rape women because she was in a mini skirt etc.
These wogs start gangs and in most of the stories about crimes it always:
the man was described as middle-eastern in appearance"
or "
the mad had olive type skin complexion."
As a true blue aussie myself, i would rather these indian and chinese students who work hard, cause no trouble, assimilate well. They add to the community compared to the spoilt young wog males who just take take take!
Alarmist headlines stir fear irrespective of fact.
To be fair, Indian students make up a substantial proportion of the passenger numbers on the Melbourne public transport network. Purely by virtue of its lower cost students in general are highly represented and this would include the +100,000 students of Indian origin that are currently living in Melbourne. On some lines to some parts of the city (based on personal experience) I would estimate Indian patronage numbers to be as high as 40%.
There is a larger problem of assaults and violent behaviour on the train network and in the areas surrounding some stations which affect the wider community and while being criminal, is not racially motivated. Like any large city, there a re just some places you avoid after dark.
I would be interested to see the official statistics for the proportion of assaults made against Indian students compared to their patronage levels on the transport system, I venture they would be quite close.
While there probably ARE isolated incidents of violence that can be traced to racial motives my gut feeling is that Indian passengers are simply being represented in the crime statistics at a rate proportional to their usage of the public transport system. However alarmist headlines are far better suited to selling newspapers.
While racism is a huge problem in this country, the probability of an Indian being attacked is no greater than anyone else, they've just been successful at making a big fuss about the few that have.
"Apparently attacks on Australian Government websites have become a hobby for Indian hackers who are fuming about the recent increase in racist attacks down under."
Lucky those bigots are so smart, otherwise they might foolishly start attacking indian people "in retaliation for attacking our country".
@observer...
"dangerous suburbs" is what the police should look at. Why is there a law when something is "dangerous".
If the police are so effective, then why is it dangerous??
I am an indian citizen who wants to become an australian fighter pilot but my visa screening is so difficult. if its difficult for me, then how did these middle eastern get their visa??
so how effective is the system??
someone like me who wants to join the RAAF cant, but ppl who want to mug other ppl get their visa.
here is an observation on how things are.
no disrespect of course, indians in general give the perception of being small (hence easy to pick on as opposed to pacific islanders, lebanese, middle eastern types etc) but well educated and must be very rich to afford to come to aus. heres news for you indians, your typical aussie is not racist... as opposed to what i have studied about your caste system... these attacks are opportunistic... what has failed you here is that lack of local education about dos and donts here in melbourne, who the hell walks through a park in a dangerous suburb? that is just asking for it. In light of recent events... you guys really need to growup instead of throwing tantrums or burning effigies... this really reflects poor on you guys...
Perhaps aussies forget the fact that most of the Indians PAY huge fees and study here with an intend to work and contribute to the economy and society, unlike people who get on boats and get here. Indians are generally tolerant and due to strict visa rules try every bit to stay out of trouble. They have every right to ask for protection. If there are criminal elements in the society its the responsibility of police to put additional beat and get rid of it. Evbody knows of places that are known for their violent incidents but the police is completely ignorant. What's wrong with having a permanent kiosk at troubled railway stations? Blaming the victim is washing your hands off the real issue. The Victorian Premier has time and again supported his police chief and failed to acknowledge that there is an issue of increasing violence in the society, not just againt indians but others. I am an Indian myself and have lived in the inner east of melbourne for past 6 Years. I never believed there was a racial side to any of the attacks in melbourne. But I was completly taken back, when my partner was followed by and asked of her nationality by a stranger on her way to the local gym. Police Chief Simon Overland in his press release said Indians are easy targets. What if I go back and look for the stranger and beat the shit out of him. Is this what Simon wishes Indians shud do. I am a citizen of Australia and am an aussie now. I try and grasp every thing aussie. I love this country.
People get assaulted in the city
every single weekend, it's nothing new.
I'm 24 white Aussie male and i have been attacked and assaulted myself. If you are in the wrong place at the wrong time you will get trouble.
Welcome to Australia.
I live in Norway, 99% of white norwegians will deny being rascist or that Norway is rascist. But ofcourse it is. We're keeping 'em down allright, you know, with "social" programs and the like.
I'm a White too.But I believe this Racism should stop.
"When Governments fail to provide a solution to Social extremism, people react." - says Following article:
a href="http://www.taranfx.com/blog/?p=1426" RAAF case study. /a
http://www.taranfx.com/blog/?p=1426
I'm white, big, and I've lived here all my life and *I* wouldn't walk home in the dark at midnight from those train stations. If I did, I'd expect to be assaulted too.
This.
Seriously, they just need to appreciate where they've chosen to live and act accordingly.
Sure it's a problem, but i'm sure it always is in those sorts of areas.
I don't think he was threatening to send AU's cyber=properties to the loan shop... I think your quote has been through a news service spellchecker.
pwned, surely?
the guy gave a warning of how dangerous he is, and provided an example. then only asked for what should have been guarenteed. wow. just wow.
It might help to know that Australia has a somewhat odd arrangement for bypassing immigration queues. Turn up, pay some local crooks AUD20-40K for a cookery or haircutting course, do 900 hours of "unpaid" labour (if you're lucky---often, you pay *them*) in one of their mates' businesses, and you're in.
Of course, if you're poor to begin with and borrowed the first part of your payment at usurious rates, you end up working shitty late-night small-amounts-of-cash-in-hand jobs and living at the ends of the urban train network.
This "business" is worth AUD15B/year.
I'm white, big, and I've lived here all my life and *I* wouldn't walk home in the dark at midnight from those train stations. If I did, I'd expect to be assaulted too.
So forget racism, at least in this matter. There are violent bits of Australia's large cities, and it doesn't much matter what colour you are if you're afoot there at midnight.
I commute on the melbourne trains and yes there is a large majority of indian students. but it isnt the true blue aussies attacking these indian students.
its those fucking lebs and middle eastern young males attacking them, im not being racist here, cause its true. i see it all the time, they run rampant on the trains stealing phones and wallets and they think they are tough.
Australia is very multi-cultural. but out of all the races here, middle eastern people do not fit in.
they are racist themselves, irritable, violent and selfish. and its not the immigrant middle eastern people. its the sons of those.the second generation who get a western life but middle eastern rules who think its ok to rape women because she was in a mini skirt etc.
These wogs start gangs and in most of the stories about crimes it always:
the man was described as middle-eastern in appearance"
or "
the mad had olive type skin complexion."
As a true blue aussie myself, i would rather these indian and chinese students who work hard, cause no trouble, assimilate well. They add to the community compared to the spoilt young wog males who just take take take!
To be fair, Indian students make up a substantial proportion of the passenger numbers on the Melbourne public transport network. Purely by virtue of its lower cost students in general are highly represented and this would include the +100,000 students of Indian origin that are currently living in Melbourne. On some lines to some parts of the city (based on personal experience) I would estimate Indian patronage numbers to be as high as 40%.
There is a larger problem of assaults and violent behaviour on the train network and in the areas surrounding some stations which affect the wider community and while being criminal, is not racially motivated. Like any large city, there a re just some places you avoid after dark.
I would be interested to see the official statistics for the proportion of assaults made against Indian students compared to their patronage levels on the transport system, I venture they would be quite close.
While there probably ARE isolated incidents of violence that can be traced to racial motives my gut feeling is that Indian passengers are simply being represented in the crime statistics at a rate proportional to their usage of the public transport system. However alarmist headlines are far better suited to selling newspapers.
While racism is a huge problem in this country, the probability of an Indian being attacked is no greater than anyone else, they've just been successful at making a big fuss about the few that have.
"Apparently attacks on Australian Government websites have become a hobby for Indian hackers who are fuming about the recent increase in racist attacks down under."
Lucky those bigots are so smart, otherwise they might foolishly start attacking indian people "in retaliation for attacking our country".
Oh, wait.