It's a lot of markeitng mumble-jumble kind of speech. And as poster above pointed out 3dMark 06 is heavily CPU dependant. So on some old X2 5000+ it won't score 1300 3dMark (and when clocked @3.2GHz usually somwhere around 15003dMark. Of course if we dont OC RS880 (better known 785G IGP) from stock 500MHz
So as a replacement board for some rather new CPU it can't deliver 1800-1900 3d Mark as it claims
But for some Propus based X2 200 series it easily jumps up to 1800 3dMark, probably 2x1MB cache makes some difference also. And if you put now usual budget X4 600 series CPU you'll probably score even more maybe even 2000 3dMark @500MHz hd4200 IGP And overclocking (which is poor on budget boards) is better solution but you wont reach 100MHz+ like on hd3300 (790gx) caused by poorer chipset/igp power supply and poorer "pricy memory chip" alongside
Poor thing for this chipset is inherited 2.1PCM disability (shared with780G/790GX chipset) and 22W TDP when some 790X waste only about 10W and some additional HD4550 (up to 15W in 3d). So the latter is much better solution from buggy 785G chipset that didnt resolve old problems but brought up new ones in terms of driver support for IGP and SB710
Nuff'said. And beyond that 1800-200 3dMark is enough only for some 2005 released game based on dx9.0b/dx90c not for some dsx10/dx10.1 needs. Beyond bare compliance ofc.
For equivalent comparisons, you'd need to test it with equal CPU's.
3DMark06 is highly cpu-dependent, so a 6800 scoring 1400 3dmarks back then in 2006 on a 2GHz Athlon64 would be like scoring 3000 3dmarks on a 3.6GHz quad-core Phenom2 today.
3Dmark05 would have been a better test, since it does not include those stupid CPU tests by default.
is this useful? it doesnt sound particularly faster than 9400, and dont nvidia have a 40nm, 32 stream integrated GPU in the works for later in the year? that would put their integrated somewhere just below the 8600 ball park possibly.
Everyone I know uses integrated graphics on at least one system. Saying that no one will use it is pretty dumb. Up to G45, the Intel integrated chipsets couldn't handle HD video. They made a huge song+dance about it when it finally arrived, but they were 2 years behind Nvidia and Ati. Can we suggest that you slip your step sister something a little more potent than Intel integrated next time around?
What's funny here is that anyone here with an opinion (a biased one) won't be using this tech unless they need to build something for their step sister.
Oh dear Bas, if only you understood benchmarking, then you would be allowed to have an opinion
The reason that Dell, HP and all of the other top manufacturers have, traditionally, used Futuremark scores in their buying decisions, is because it has proven to be a good indicator/predictor of performance
Perfect? No. But, then again, nothing ever is
At the lowest level, for integrated chipsets, 3DMark is a stunningly good predictor of how a user's experience will be impacted by a change in chipset
@ Professor Tom: You have to say that 9x anything is pretty amazing
God grief, you still believe the most stupid benchmark on the planet?
Everybody know that 3DMark is a pile of junk and benches in it's own digital world.
As well as having absolutely no resemblance to real work performance.
This has been proved over and over again.
Can't believe The Inq is this stupid by using them as reference....sad :-(
Checking with Tom's Hardware Guide, it seems that they have these scores for the GMA 950 and GMA X3100...
GMA 950: 200
GMA X3100: 600
Looking at RS880, it seems that it will be around 3x faster than Intel's current offer and 9x faster than Intel's most popular integrated graphics of recent times
Is this kind of article important?
Well, seeing as Integrated is the number 1 choice for grpahics - it is really important for people to know that for 'no extra money', they can get something 9x quicker... surely?
Why are there so many of you idiots in the world? We should have IQ minimums for internet use. The point of the article was that your integrated graphics are now power enough to play MOST modern games pretty darn well.
1800 can't be right.....it must be a typo:
no its not, 1800 is right. 18k is very fast, you would need a crossfire os sli to get it! Dont be stupid people (nvidiots), they are talking about INTEGRATED GRAPHICS here and they are HANDS DOWN better than any other integrated graphics in the market! What they are saying is that it performs as well as what a $300 graphics used to cost you, you freaking morons!
If you dont know even the slightest of what your talkin about, keep your trap shut.
What are you talking about? The very next door article is a breathless description of Intel's upcoming monster processor. The bias is well balanced, I'd say.
I can dust off my copy of Jedi Knight 2 and make fun of the multiplayer geeks.
C'mon, I mean, really, the AMD bias here is really getting thick. Who is getting excited over this, really? Modern day tech that's equal in performance to 5 year old tech? Only on the Inq
It's a lot of markeitng mumble-jumble kind of speech. And as poster above pointed out 3dMark 06 is heavily CPU dependant. So on some old X2 5000+ it won't score 1300 3dMark (and when clocked @3.2GHz usually somwhere around 15003dMark. Of course if we dont OC RS880 (better known 785G IGP) from stock 500MHz
So as a replacement board for some rather new CPU it can't deliver 1800-1900 3d Mark as it claims
But for some Propus based X2 200 series it easily jumps up to 1800 3dMark, probably 2x1MB cache makes some difference also. And if you put now usual budget X4 600 series CPU you'll probably score even more maybe even 2000 3dMark @500MHz hd4200 IGP And overclocking (which is poor on budget boards) is better solution but you wont reach 100MHz+ like on hd3300 (790gx) caused by poorer chipset/igp power supply and poorer "pricy memory chip" alongside
Poor thing for this chipset is inherited 2.1PCM disability (shared with780G/790GX chipset) and 22W TDP when some 790X waste only about 10W and some additional HD4550 (up to 15W in 3d). So the latter is much better solution from buggy 785G chipset that didnt resolve old problems but brought up new ones in terms of driver support for IGP and SB710
Nuff'said. And beyond that 1800-200 3dMark is enough only for some 2005 released game based on dx9.0b/dx90c not for some dsx10/dx10.1 needs. Beyond bare compliance ofc.
For equivalent comparisons, you'd need to test it with equal CPU's.
3DMark06 is highly cpu-dependent, so a 6800 scoring 1400 3dmarks back then in 2006 on a 2GHz Athlon64 would be like scoring 3000 3dmarks on a 3.6GHz quad-core Phenom2 today.
3Dmark05 would have been a better test, since it does not include those stupid CPU tests by default.
"or maybe 'ultee god
TS Von D would tell us?
Cmon stewie, enlighten us as only u or castenada can"
I really would rather chew on broken glass or stick pins in my eyes....
You would stand a better chance hanging seaweed outside your door!
Love,
Dave xxx
Its not apples for apples.
Adding in the AGP bus /PCIe bus will add a lot of watts to the power draw.
On Laptops this makes a huge difference to your battery life.
Anyone wanna go off and research the numbers.
or maybe 'ultee god
TS Von D would tell us?
Cmon stewie, enlighten us as only u or castenada can
For that added performance, seems cheap @ $90 6 Bbs' less than ddr2, sp biy big boards 955 is $189.
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Found what seems to be a definitive IGP shoot out over here in the States
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3430&p=4
If the RS880 is around 15% quicker than the 780G then gaming looks viable
Seriously weak performance from that G45 :(
Not bad by comparison... Almost equivalent to the 9400M (ION) in the Macbooks/Mac Mini/iMac
GeForce 9400M = 2000
Mobility Radeon HD 3450 = 1931
GeForce Go 6800 = 1900
GeForce Go 7600 = 1877
Mobility Radeon X1600 = 1821
Mobility Radeon HD 3430 = 1731
Mobility Radeon HD 3470 = 1574
GeForce 9300M GS = 1465
GeForce 8400M GS = 1326
is this useful? it doesnt sound particularly faster than 9400, and dont nvidia have a 40nm, 32 stream integrated GPU in the works for later in the year? that would put their integrated somewhere just below the 8600 ball park possibly.
Everyone I know uses integrated graphics on at least one system. Saying that no one will use it is pretty dumb. Up to G45, the Intel integrated chipsets couldn't handle HD video. They made a huge song+dance about it when it finally arrived, but they were 2 years behind Nvidia and Ati. Can we suggest that you slip your step sister something a little more potent than Intel integrated next time around?
What's funny here is that anyone here with an opinion (a biased one) won't be using this tech unless they need to build something for their step sister.
And I've taken three IQ tests in my life...
result 1: 123
result 2: 103
result 3: 81
So much for benchmarking.
Bit harsh on the Bas, but fair comments all of em
Oh dear Bas, if only you understood benchmarking, then you would be allowed to have an opinion
The reason that Dell, HP and all of the other top manufacturers have, traditionally, used Futuremark scores in their buying decisions, is because it has proven to be a good indicator/predictor of performance
Perfect? No. But, then again, nothing ever is
At the lowest level, for integrated chipsets, 3DMark is a stunningly good predictor of how a user's experience will be impacted by a change in chipset
@ Professor Tom: You have to say that 9x anything is pretty amazing
God grief, you still believe the most stupid benchmark on the planet?
Everybody know that 3DMark is a pile of junk and benches in it's own digital world.
As well as having absolutely no resemblance to real work performance.
This has been proved over and over again.
Can't believe The Inq is this stupid by using them as reference....sad :-(
Checking with Tom's Hardware Guide, it seems that they have these scores for the GMA 950 and GMA X3100...
GMA 950: 200
GMA X3100: 600
Looking at RS880, it seems that it will be around 3x faster than Intel's current offer and 9x faster than Intel's most popular integrated graphics of recent times
Is this kind of article important?
Well, seeing as Integrated is the number 1 choice for grpahics - it is really important for people to know that for 'no extra money', they can get something 9x quicker... surely?
^^^
What he said....
Why are there so many of you idiots in the world? We should have IQ minimums for internet use. The point of the article was that your integrated graphics are now power enough to play MOST modern games pretty darn well.
annals.
1800 can't be right.....it must be a typo:
no its not, 1800 is right. 18k is very fast, you would need a crossfire os sli to get it! Dont be stupid people (nvidiots), they are talking about INTEGRATED GRAPHICS here and they are HANDS DOWN better than any other integrated graphics in the market! What they are saying is that it performs as well as what a $300 graphics used to cost you, you freaking morons!
If you dont know even the slightest of what your talkin about, keep your trap shut.
Dave:
What are you talking about? The very next door article is a breathless description of Intel's upcoming monster processor. The bias is well balanced, I'd say.
Love your work M. Barak, keep it up.
I can dust off my copy of Jedi Knight 2 and make fun of the multiplayer geeks.
C'mon, I mean, really, the AMD bias here is really getting thick. Who is getting excited over this, really? Modern day tech that's equal in performance to 5 year old tech? Only on the Inq
1800 can't be right.....it must be a typo.
18k is more like it
it doesn't need anything like phenom II 955 to reach that number.
has a 3300 and is capable of 1800-2000 3dmarks already due to its sideport technology.