I want powerful graphic card like the coming ION 2 on my nettop. Must be great to use as a mediacenter coupled with the file-server which is hidden in the basement.
Personally, I would rather them focus on power savings with a next generation part. I would like enough GPU power to offload 1080p decode, but thats it, for the next ~2years I dont see any 'real-world' benefit to increasing the compute power of Ion, as it already does what it needs to do.
I dont need/want the ability to play WoW or whatever at higher settings, but I do want to be able to surf the web for longer.
So please, focus of battery life, not eyeball-shredding graphics. Id rather have a nettop with 8hr battery life that can game at 640x480 than one that can game at 800x600 with only 6hrs battery life, especially since I wont be gaming at all! (Its called a desktop, people...)
If it can handle Quake3 and games of similar graphics requirements nicely then that's great. If it can convert videos faster (and that CUDA stuff) then that's great too. But only if the price difference is not much between an ION and an INTEL low-power chipset.
Ion (9400GT) is CPU limited. I saw benchmarks in Anand's Ion article, and there was an increase in performance when going to 9400GT with a better CPU (I think it was a Celeron). So I don't know how this shader increase is going to help the platform at all. Except perhaps in CUDA apps? I don't think you buy a netbook to do GPU programming.
Will probably become possible on an ION2 powered machine. Not to shabby I think, so I for one will not sniff about it.
Gaming is not only First person shooters, you know...
M.
It's not like current Ion isn't held back by the stupidly slow cpu... upgrade the damn CPU and possibly shrink the GPU chip. No need to make it faster :-/
Stronger Video allows it to compete with consoles.
That's the real market Ion is looking to capture.
Once you have a small, cheap box capable of playing your videos, your games, and connecting you to the internet, why do you need the vendor lock-in of Sony and XBox?
If you're lucky enough to have a service like Hulu or Digital Netflix, you can skip the Blu-Ray nonsense all together and just stream stuff right off the internet.
Remember that whilst Intel's graphics chipsets are crap by Nvidia's standard they're low power and can still handle accelerated DVD and Aero. It's when games and hi def video enter the arena that it becomes important.
Hi def on a netbook? Useless. Just about useful for a media centre PC. Therefore it really *is* users trying to run some of the older games on a netbook.
The X3100, for instance, can't even handle something like Morrowind at much better than 10fps but is otherwise completely functional in Vista/Windows 7.
Since AMD still not capable to offer more competitive platform, I hope this chipset will help consumer to see this advantages and benefits with AMD microprocessor. AMD currently have lack a competent people in the chipset development to push their product faster to market.
They have been loose the intelligent engineer like Raja Koduri and several other people.
I hope that the suport for better prosecers(I know I cant spell but you know what I mean)can be used with netbooks and not just cheap notebooks.
I want powerful graphic card like the coming ION 2 on my nettop. Must be great to use as a mediacenter coupled with the file-server which is hidden in the basement.
Personally, I would rather them focus on power savings with a next generation part. I would like enough GPU power to offload 1080p decode, but thats it, for the next ~2years I dont see any 'real-world' benefit to increasing the compute power of Ion, as it already does what it needs to do.
I dont need/want the ability to play WoW or whatever at higher settings, but I do want to be able to surf the web for longer.
So please, focus of battery life, not eyeball-shredding graphics. Id rather have a nettop with 8hr battery life that can game at 640x480 than one that can game at 800x600 with only 6hrs battery life, especially since I wont be gaming at all! (Its called a desktop, people...)
ChemC
If it can handle Quake3 and games of similar graphics requirements nicely then that's great. If it can convert videos faster (and that CUDA stuff) then that's great too. But only if the price difference is not much between an ION and an INTEL low-power chipset.
Ion (9400GT) is CPU limited. I saw benchmarks in Anand's Ion article, and there was an increase in performance when going to 9400GT with a better CPU (I think it was a Celeron). So I don't know how this shader increase is going to help the platform at all. Except perhaps in CUDA apps? I don't think you buy a netbook to do GPU programming.
Will probably become possible on an ION2 powered machine. Not to shabby I think, so I for one will not sniff about it.
Gaming is not only First person shooters, you know...
M.
It's not like current Ion isn't held back by the stupidly slow cpu... upgrade the damn CPU and possibly shrink the GPU chip. No need to make it faster :-/
Will Ion 2 be compatible with VIA Nano, though? I would have thought that would be an item of interest, surely.
That's the real market Ion is looking to capture.
Once you have a small, cheap box capable of playing your videos, your games, and connecting you to the internet, why do you need the vendor lock-in of Sony and XBox?
If you're lucky enough to have a service like Hulu or Digital Netflix, you can skip the Blu-Ray nonsense all together and just stream stuff right off the internet.
Remember that whilst Intel's graphics chipsets are crap by Nvidia's standard they're low power and can still handle accelerated DVD and Aero. It's when games and hi def video enter the arena that it becomes important.
Hi def on a netbook? Useless. Just about useful for a media centre PC. Therefore it really *is* users trying to run some of the older games on a netbook.
The X3100, for instance, can't even handle something like Morrowind at much better than 10fps but is otherwise completely functional in Vista/Windows 7.
Since AMD still not capable to offer more competitive platform, I hope this chipset will help consumer to see this advantages and benefits with AMD microprocessor. AMD currently have lack a competent people in the chipset development to push their product faster to market.
They have been loose the intelligent engineer like Raja Koduri and several other people.