My 2cents: Every time any site criticizes apple you get a long line of responses and indignations. Shouldn’t you be doing something else, that is perhaps better for you? (Im projecting, because its 5am and I cant sleep, or for that matter do anything else useful)
The Inq criticizes Microsoft and Apple both ALL THE TIME. When The Inq criticizes Microsoft, it's obviously completely warranted and deserved; yet whenever The Inq criticizes Apple, it's obviously a travesty, biased and blatant targeting?
The iPhone's performance doesn't come down entirely--or even mostly--to its cell network connection. Even over wifi, the iPhone is pretty pokey at rendering web pages. And it takes a while to launch apps. (All the more important because it doesn't multitask.) I'm not complaining--I have one and I love it, but holy crap, a processor upgrade would be awesome.
I hope you spend a little more time researching your future articles. You're really off-base here.
"One of the things about insulting people is you often reveal your own weaknesses, it's called projection"
Funny how you write things about others that apply to you as well. Too blind to see maybe ?
Much like ElReg (your big brother) you can't seem to see beyond your own mediocre articles and bias comments.
Maybe you should lecture your own objectivity before embarking in putting together "stuff" that represents your obvious weakness on the subject matter.
too scare to publish this? I'm not surprised one bit.
Remember Chekhov's «Ванька»? I am writing almost like this boy "на деревню дедушке" without a clue if you are reading....
Dear Mike, sorry, i'm not English speaking, i'm just learning. I would definitely tell all that in Russian 100 times shorter :-)))
If you still owe or influence this in one word "absurd" i will try to describe you how awful your new gen folks look like.
This is what some day they will write about you, their own parents or anyone, seems they have no limits:
"NOT EVEN TheInquirer messiah Mike Magee could be bothered to get out of bed for the red-themed rant on one of our most hatred company's (could be Apple, Sun and Microsoft) announcements at its World Wide Developers Conference yesterday.
Perhaps it was not his hart bypass surgery playing up but he has developed an allergy to hype and a healthy contempt for the TheInq bashing press that prints it without question. We can but hope that Mike's brush with death might have led him to see what is really important.
The fact that he did not show up to kick us out here into the face, me Nick Fartel and sometimes some others, is telling. Crazy mad Mike may afraid we, the new TheInq team, will kick this old foolish antics drinkard through the window...."
Damn, Mike, please, come here and barbeque some a$$es
Arpple Fan boys must have fished on Kraken.
Begone already and allow an entertaining and talented hack to his muckery. I've been reading the INQ for a fistful of years, and is whimpy scrybabies like the Apple-hearted that seeks to drag everything down to their peon level. You want it with Apples, fine you can shove them but to your heart's content.
Just keep your Mac Air to yourself. Nobody gets it like you, eh?
Yeah, these Apple folks only do boring stuff, like execution. You know,
making products that customers really like, developers can build real
businesses around, making tons of money. Yawn.
You post underscores a core part of my analysis on WWDC; namely that Apple
has so totally treated us to wizardry and wow over the years that when they
merely execute, it's a disappointment (to some), something that I blogged
about in:
Apple WWDC Keynote Analysis: Punishing the Wizard, Part Two
http://bit.ly/2lC3yC
I was worried about my 15 2.4 Oct. 2008 MBP would be totally obsolete but I will take my ExpressCard slot over a SD slot any day. 2.66 vs 2.4 - please even with a larger cache that ExpressCard is far better.
And only when you spend the cash on a 17 - a large device, do you get the the ExpressCard - Apple Giveth and Apple Taketh away.
Quote: "Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for Itanium systems, Version 2002 — Based on Windows XP codebase, which was released in 2001." From - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_xp_tablet_pc_edition#Windows_XP_64-Bit_Edition
Quote: "Microsoft has cracked the seal into the 64-bit computing world with the release Wednesday of Windows 2000 Advanced Server Limited Edition." From - http://www.pcworld.com/article/60024/microsoft_ships_64bit_windows_for_itanium.html
Date: Aug 29, 2001 4:00 pm
Apple does predictable releases, offering incremental improvements, and charges for them. They quickly make it frustrating for you to not upgrade and basically expect you to keep up or get left behind. Compatibility and longevity have never been on apple's roadmap, they always look to the future and create advertising and hype, inflate their strong points, deny their shortcomings, and mock their opposition.
Microsoft tries to be everything to everybody. They try to support everybody's hardware and software, try to keep up with the latest trends while not alienating their user base, improve security but not break compatibility etc. It's monumental in scope and probably more than they should do. They release a new os every few years offering major changes and offer several service packs to improve performance, security, and stability without breaking compatibility. They do ok at it, but windows is definately a victim of their own size and user base. As a result they end up pleasing and annoying all of their customers at the same time.
Linux is sort of both. Red Hat Enterprise is more like microsoft, incremental changes, compatiblity is important, periodic major releases, while stuff like ubuntu and fedora are more like mac os to the extreme, very frequent upgrades, upgrade or get left behind, always hyping the future, but generally more honest about what works, what doesn't, and what needs improvement.
just shows different people want different things and one package can't be everything to everybody.
If you read the inq for content you're doing it wrong. The inq provides perspective, if you don't like it then you need to get a grip and stop by your local fanbois anonymous on your way home from work. Inqbias is well know and easy to spot which means it should be easy for you to pick out the relevant facts without having to sift through the hype.
i fix laptops for my coffee customers. so, 8 out of 10 owners of macbooks install win7, using bootcamp, only to have msn messenger working completely so that they can chat with their loved ones while far away from homes, but then they install the rest of essential .exes. windows 7 works like a charm on apple notebook, much better than the OS X. i don't mean that one is good or bad, and i love unix command line not leo gui though; tiger was far better os. just let you know what i know.
An OLED screen Iphone, with flash for the camera and multitasking OS and Tegra graphics. Now they dump this 3GS... Really disappointing! Iphone users have absolutely no reason to get the "new" Iphone.
By the way, Apple partner nVidia missed the bus with Iphone? That makes one wonder if Tegra is really ready to hit the market...
Check your facts, the x64 version arrived "on April 25, 2005" according to wikipedia.
But Microsoft didn't get 64bit right before Vista, witch is the only usable version of vista btw..
O2 want £274 for a 32GB model, which is $443! It's only $299 in the US which means they want an extra £90 ($145) more over here! Rip-off Britain or the Apple Tax?
"Was Microsoft able to offer a 64-bit kernel as a Service Pack to an existing version of Windows? If not, than the 64-bit kernel in Snow Leopard alone justifies the new OS." if you own a 32 bit vista the 64bit version is free
but on a somewhat basis note, why would people compare windows 7/vista and or osx?
1 is a general os that runs on cpu's from 3 diffent company's using different architectures produced in the last 5 years. It also deals with a large number of chipsets and a mindbogeling number of expansions
the other is a fully owned specialist os that runs on 2 cpu's from 1 company, 3 chipsets oh and apart from 1 line (the pro) all models are all in ones or laptops which have no expansion. Basicaly apple kan just include a list with all possible configs on the dvd.
it's like buying a suit, only in one case a blindfolded salesman has to find matching parts in a warehouse and in the other they sell only one suit
the fact that osx installs faster is not remarkable, that it is only a few minutes faster now that is remarkable
I use to read this site religiously about 3 or 4 times a day. I recommended this site to many people. But in the last year or so its just gone from bad to absolutely fucking awful. From the redesign of the site to the quality (!?!) of the authors that write on it, everything has gone down hill rapidly. I find the news is always late and the jokes made against Apple, Microsoft, etc. old and terribly boring. Its totally pathetic.
The Inquirer brings nothing new to the table anymore.
... all this complaining.
It's the same old all over again.
Facts:
- Leopard-Kernel is 64bit, some layers above are not. Snow Leopard changes this, hence the "64bit top to bottom".
- Leopard has protected memory and all the other bells and whistles (like XD-bits, Snow Leopard just applies it to more Apps).
- Apple has no advantage because of less different components. You can run OSX on any kind of hardware (look at iPods and iPhones for portability), as long as there are drivers. Those are provided by vendors, similar to Windows. The days when Apple used to write their own drivers is long gone.
I'm looking forward to Snow Leopard and I'll definetly buy the update. Should be ~$20 with student rebate.
"Most people also recognize that Snow Leopard is just another version of Leopard, too."
Actually, snow leopards are quite unlike their snowless namesake. One naturalist described one as having "a tail so long and furry that it looks as if a fuzzy python is following it." Think a long line of fanboys following Steve as he tosses them a few upgrades - and charges $30 for them ;o)
Windows didn't need to offer 64 bit in a service pack because they aren't playing catch up to OSX like Apple is trying to do with Windows. History repeats itself, Apple's OS is behind the curve. Windows had protected mode memory and other advanced features well before Mas OS did.
Microsoft never made fundamental changes to a kernel in a service pack because they didn't want to break compatibility with anything. See, in Windowsland, everything is compatible with software (e.g. XP), not hardware (e.g. G5). Hence such beasts as XP x64.
Maybe some day you'll grow up and realize you can call things whatever you want and that a justification requirement is burdensome and often absurd. I won't hold my breath though.
Microsoft don't need to offer a 64-bit kernel in a service pack, because they've been offering you the choice since Windows XP 64-Bit Edition (IA64). Long before AMD64 and EM64T (x86-64) support. Back in 2001.
Why do people always try to refer to Snow Leopard as a Service Pack from Microsoft? Was Microsoft able to offer a 64-bit kernel as a Service Pack to an existing version of Windows? If not, than the 64-bit kernel in Snow Leopard alone justifies the new OS.
Apple's version incrementing of OS X by 0.1, ie 10.5 to 10.6, is often made fun of as overhyped, but Windows XP was 5.1 to Windows 2000's 5.0 and Windows 7 is 6.1 to Windows Vista's 6.0. For servers kernel 6.1 is called Windows 2008 R2, but I don't see many people saying calling Windows 7 Windows Vista R2 would show the lineage better and put things in perspective.
My 2cents: Every time any site criticizes apple you get a long line of responses and indignations. Shouldn’t you be doing something else, that is perhaps better for you? (Im projecting, because its 5am and I cant sleep, or for that matter do anything else useful)
I love it, its great.
The Inq criticizes Microsoft and Apple both ALL THE TIME. When The Inq criticizes Microsoft, it's obviously completely warranted and deserved; yet whenever The Inq criticizes Apple, it's obviously a travesty, biased and blatant targeting?
Get over yourselves already
The iPhone's performance doesn't come down entirely--or even mostly--to its cell network connection. Even over wifi, the iPhone is pretty pokey at rendering web pages. And it takes a while to launch apps. (All the more important because it doesn't multitask.) I'm not complaining--I have one and I love it, but holy crap, a processor upgrade would be awesome.
I hope you spend a little more time researching your future articles. You're really off-base here.
"One of the things about insulting people is you often reveal your own weaknesses, it's called projection"
Funny how you write things about others that apply to you as well. Too blind to see maybe ?
Much like ElReg (your big brother) you can't seem to see beyond your own mediocre articles and bias comments.
Maybe you should lecture your own objectivity before embarking in putting together "stuff" that represents your obvious weakness on the subject matter.
too scare to publish this? I'm not surprised one bit.
I'm no fan of Apple's stuff, but this statement:
"One of the things about insulting people is you often reveal your own weaknesses, it's called projection."
in the context of the tone of this article, makes me think this is just the pot calling the kettle black.
Remember Chekhov's «Ванька»? I am writing almost like this boy "на деревню дедушке" without a clue if you are reading....
Dear Mike, sorry, i'm not English speaking, i'm just learning. I would definitely tell all that in Russian 100 times shorter :-)))
If you still owe or influence this in one word "absurd" i will try to describe you how awful your new gen folks look like.
This is what some day they will write about you, their own parents or anyone, seems they have no limits:
"NOT EVEN TheInquirer messiah Mike Magee could be bothered to get out of bed for the red-themed rant on one of our most hatred company's (could be Apple, Sun and Microsoft) announcements at its World Wide Developers Conference yesterday.
Perhaps it was not his hart bypass surgery playing up but he has developed an allergy to hype and a healthy contempt for the TheInq bashing press that prints it without question. We can but hope that Mike's brush with death might have led him to see what is really important.
The fact that he did not show up to kick us out here into the face, me Nick Fartel and sometimes some others, is telling. Crazy mad Mike may afraid we, the new TheInq team, will kick this old foolish antics drinkard through the window...."
Damn, Mike, please, come here and barbeque some a$$es
Grand Central, Open CL, an a completely rewritten finder? That's not a service pack, that's an upgrade.
Arpple Fan boys must have fished on Kraken.
Begone already and allow an entertaining and talented hack to his muckery. I've been reading the INQ for a fistful of years, and is whimpy scrybabies like the Apple-hearted that seeks to drag everything down to their peon level. You want it with Apples, fine you can shove them but to your heart's content.
Just keep your Mac Air to yourself. Nobody gets it like you, eh?
Yeah, these Apple folks only do boring stuff, like execution. You know,
making products that customers really like, developers can build real
businesses around, making tons of money. Yawn.
You post underscores a core part of my analysis on WWDC; namely that Apple
has so totally treated us to wizardry and wow over the years that when they
merely execute, it's a disappointment (to some), something that I blogged
about in:
Apple WWDC Keynote Analysis: Punishing the Wizard, Part Two
http://bit.ly/2lC3yC
Check it out if interested.
Cheers,
Mark
I was worried about my 15 2.4 Oct. 2008 MBP would be totally obsolete but I will take my ExpressCard slot over a SD slot any day. 2.66 vs 2.4 - please even with a larger cache that ExpressCard is far better.
And only when you spend the cash on a 17 - a large device, do you get the the ExpressCard - Apple Giveth and Apple Taketh away.
they are bonkers.
Here in Canada the 15" MBP with 9600 video card went UP $100!
You may need to check your facts man:
Quote: "Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for Itanium systems, Version 2002 — Based on Windows XP codebase, which was released in 2001." From - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_xp_tablet_pc_edition#Windows_XP_64-Bit_Edition
Quote: "Microsoft has cracked the seal into the 64-bit computing world with the release Wednesday of Windows 2000 Advanced Server Limited Edition." From - http://www.pcworld.com/article/60024/microsoft_ships_64bit_windows_for_itanium.html
Date: Aug 29, 2001 4:00 pm
MS has had 64bit support for a long time.
Nowhere do see any specifics, so heres as good link as any, each line item busted down to what it does & why its now better.
Occasionally crew at zd write here, as Naathan Brockwood, Maybe Nathanize theINQ? Anyway here:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=4084
Writer Claims 10X More Gruesome Details & Updated Hour Ago.
Apple and Microsoft aren't the same, get over it
Apple does predictable releases, offering incremental improvements, and charges for them. They quickly make it frustrating for you to not upgrade and basically expect you to keep up or get left behind. Compatibility and longevity have never been on apple's roadmap, they always look to the future and create advertising and hype, inflate their strong points, deny their shortcomings, and mock their opposition.
Microsoft tries to be everything to everybody. They try to support everybody's hardware and software, try to keep up with the latest trends while not alienating their user base, improve security but not break compatibility etc. It's monumental in scope and probably more than they should do. They release a new os every few years offering major changes and offer several service packs to improve performance, security, and stability without breaking compatibility. They do ok at it, but windows is definately a victim of their own size and user base. As a result they end up pleasing and annoying all of their customers at the same time.
Linux is sort of both. Red Hat Enterprise is more like microsoft, incremental changes, compatiblity is important, periodic major releases, while stuff like ubuntu and fedora are more like mac os to the extreme, very frequent upgrades, upgrade or get left behind, always hyping the future, but generally more honest about what works, what doesn't, and what needs improvement.
just shows different people want different things and one package can't be everything to everybody.
If you read the inq for content you're doing it wrong. The inq provides perspective, if you don't like it then you need to get a grip and stop by your local fanbois anonymous on your way home from work. Inqbias is well know and easy to spot which means it should be easy for you to pick out the relevant facts without having to sift through the hype.
Nick, you really are butthurt. I mean it must be bleeding so hard that it's a waterfall. It has gotta be really bad.
This site used to be full of quality news, now it is an unbelievably biased site dedicated to attacking Apple regardless of fact or merit.
I work with Windows, own Windows machines and have no reason to love Apple but this is a complete hatchet job.
I'll check back in a couple of years to see if the content has improved. With rubbish like this I can only assume your visitor stats are tanking....
i fix laptops for my coffee customers. so, 8 out of 10 owners of macbooks install win7, using bootcamp, only to have msn messenger working completely so that they can chat with their loved ones while far away from homes, but then they install the rest of essential .exes. windows 7 works like a charm on apple notebook, much better than the OS X. i don't mean that one is good or bad, and i love unix command line not leo gui though; tiger was far better os. just let you know what i know.
The person who wrote this article is obviously biased.
Once again the Vole's Mouthpiece has spoken long live the Vole.
To be fair the $:£ fx-rate has varied hugely recently, in the last month it's ranged from 1.5 through 1.7 to 1.
Also, UK price includes VAT whereas US price is quoted without sales tax.
But still, even taking into account these two points there is still some price disparity. :(
An OLED screen Iphone, with flash for the camera and multitasking OS and Tegra graphics. Now they dump this 3GS... Really disappointing! Iphone users have absolutely no reason to get the "new" Iphone.
By the way, Apple partner nVidia missed the bus with Iphone? That makes one wonder if Tegra is really ready to hit the market...
Check your facts, the x64 version arrived "on April 25, 2005" according to wikipedia.
But Microsoft didn't get 64bit right before Vista, witch is the only usable version of vista btw..
O2 want £274 for a 32GB model, which is $443! It's only $299 in the US which means they want an extra £90 ($145) more over here! Rip-off Britain or the Apple Tax?
"Was Microsoft able to offer a 64-bit kernel as a Service Pack to an existing version of Windows? If not, than the 64-bit kernel in Snow Leopard alone justifies the new OS." if you own a 32 bit vista the 64bit version is free
but on a somewhat basis note, why would people compare windows 7/vista and or osx?
1 is a general os that runs on cpu's from 3 diffent company's using different architectures produced in the last 5 years. It also deals with a large number of chipsets and a mindbogeling number of expansions
the other is a fully owned specialist os that runs on 2 cpu's from 1 company, 3 chipsets oh and apart from 1 line (the pro) all models are all in ones or laptops which have no expansion. Basicaly apple kan just include a list with all possible configs on the dvd.
it's like buying a suit, only in one case a blindfolded salesman has to find matching parts in a warehouse and in the other they sell only one suit
the fact that osx installs faster is not remarkable, that it is only a few minutes faster now that is remarkable
I use to read this site religiously about 3 or 4 times a day. I recommended this site to many people. But in the last year or so its just gone from bad to absolutely fucking awful. From the redesign of the site to the quality (!?!) of the authors that write on it, everything has gone down hill rapidly. I find the news is always late and the jokes made against Apple, Microsoft, etc. old and terribly boring. Its totally pathetic.
The Inquirer brings nothing new to the table anymore.
... all this complaining.
It's the same old all over again.
Facts:
- Leopard-Kernel is 64bit, some layers above are not. Snow Leopard changes this, hence the "64bit top to bottom".
- Leopard has protected memory and all the other bells and whistles (like XD-bits, Snow Leopard just applies it to more Apps).
- Apple has no advantage because of less different components. You can run OSX on any kind of hardware (look at iPods and iPhones for portability), as long as there are drivers. Those are provided by vendors, similar to Windows. The days when Apple used to write their own drivers is long gone.
I'm looking forward to Snow Leopard and I'll definetly buy the update. Should be ~$20 with student rebate.
"Most people also recognize that Snow Leopard is just another version of Leopard, too."
Actually, snow leopards are quite unlike their snowless namesake. One naturalist described one as having "a tail so long and furry that it looks as if a fuzzy python is following it." Think a long line of fanboys following Steve as he tosses them a few upgrades - and charges $30 for them ;o)
Windows didn't need to offer 64 bit in a service pack because they aren't playing catch up to OSX like Apple is trying to do with Windows. History repeats itself, Apple's OS is behind the curve. Windows had protected mode memory and other advanced features well before Mas OS did.
Microsoft never made fundamental changes to a kernel in a service pack because they didn't want to break compatibility with anything. See, in Windowsland, everything is compatible with software (e.g. XP), not hardware (e.g. G5). Hence such beasts as XP x64.
Maybe some day you'll grow up and realize you can call things whatever you want and that a justification requirement is burdensome and often absurd. I won't hold my breath though.
Microsoft don't need to offer a 64-bit kernel in a service pack, because they've been offering you the choice since Windows XP 64-Bit Edition (IA64). Long before AMD64 and EM64T (x86-64) support. Back in 2001.
Why do people always try to refer to Snow Leopard as a Service Pack from Microsoft? Was Microsoft able to offer a 64-bit kernel as a Service Pack to an existing version of Windows? If not, than the 64-bit kernel in Snow Leopard alone justifies the new OS.
Apple's version incrementing of OS X by 0.1, ie 10.5 to 10.6, is often made fun of as overhyped, but Windows XP was 5.1 to Windows 2000's 5.0 and Windows 7 is 6.1 to Windows Vista's 6.0. For servers kernel 6.1 is called Windows 2008 R2, but I don't see many people saying calling Windows 7 Windows Vista R2 would show the lineage better and put things in perspective.