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They feel like that for a reason

Hey "They lock it for a reason"Jon - your FUD would have a little more credibility if you hadn't said " The point is when you have multiple chips on one piece of silicone the chances are you are not going to get 100% of them perfect"…
… If you spent more time studying the chemical element siliCON and less time trying to eat your dinner off the stuff they put in women's tits, I might have believed you.

posted by : Bob Dobbs, 28 April 2009 Complain about this comment
If it were green and blue...

I wonder if Charlie would consider this "ability" to be poor design or deceiving marketing if the green team or intel had done this. Not like this is an important comment but neither are most of charlies flame articles so I feel entitled to throw in my two-cents.

posted by : ChazTuij, 28 April 2009 Complain about this comment
hmmm

I have read many accounts of unlocking not being successful, the fourth cpu was defective and made the system unstable.
I think there is a bios update coming to make unlocking no longer possible.
There is also a claim that the cache in some of the 4mb cpus is unlockable.
Don't expect to benefit from unlocking.

posted by : David, 28 April 2009 Complain about this comment
They lock it for a reason.

I will never trust anything processed using that defective core. They disabled that part for a reason, so it's only logical that i leave it alone. Think if they were perfect, AMD themselves could have charged more for it and sell as a 4 core chip, but instead, when certain tests corrupted data or something, they decided to block that part and sell as a lesser 3 core chip.

Maybe for gaming and while messing around it might be worth it but when it comes to serious work, work that you can't/won't be able to repeat, you must stay on a sure bet. Or otherwise if you're desperate or don't give a sh_t for your data then you can take the risk, I can't be bothered repeating - life's just too short.

Sony said they'll do the same to the 8-core cell... and something about, getting all 8 cores to come out perfect from the factory was not possible and so they decided to disable the defective 1 core and did that even to the perfect 8-core cell to keep it compatible with all the 7-core defective cells. So 1 PS3 won't be faster than the other. And anything below the minimum 7-core, they were going to put a few of these together and sell it as some workstation or something like that.... how far have they gone with the plan? I'm not sure. The point is when you have multiple chips on one piece of silicone the chances are you are not going to get 100% of them perfect, probably why intel used 2 dual-cores in their quad.

Bye. Jon.

posted by : Jon, 28 April 2009 Complain about this comment
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These unlocks are great for AMD. They'll get a few enthusiasts back to the AM2+/AM3 platform with the budget x2/x3, with a chance they'll stay with the platform and swap in a speedier x4 as a quick upgrade later on.

posted by : drx1, 28 April 2009 Complain about this comment
@Linus

Are you the guy from NCIX Tech Tips? The one that broke the pin on one of the chips :)

Great videos :)

posted by : Aaronage, 28 April 2009 Complain about this comment
http://ritchan.dasaku.net

Linus: yeah, the X3s that unlock come from a specific week in February this year, I think. AMD probably fixed the problem long before this article was even typed up.

posted by : ritchan, 28 April 2009 Complain about this comment
We found one that didn't unlock

We received two X3 samples from AMD for our video on the new Phenom II AM3 lineup. The 720 BE didn't unlock but the 710 did (and overclocked to boot).

You've implied in your article that unlocking is a guarantee, but applying ACC to the 720BE that we have results in no POST, then disabling it again causes it to work fine again.

posted by : Linus, 27 April 2009 Complain about this comment
2 step only....

It sounds like Bo making case to get good deal open small one up. Yet, actual reason, if you remember debate at time, was that core 4 was almost never used(15%). Waste of Monies. So almost exact same performance with X3, apparently.

Now with more sophisticated Cross Bars/s fastest Pace Internally & better software caching, More Cores May Be Useful result. XUseable Cores. drashek

posted by : Ultee', 27 April 2009 Complain about this comment
Unlocking

I really do hope that AMD keep this up. Sure a few enthusiasts will unlock the chips and gain the extra cores (be it 1 or 2 extra cores) but I dare say the majority of these chips sold will be sold in bargain PCs anyway to people who wouldn't consider overclocking.

But if they do keep this option open to enthusiasts then hopefully it'll drive a whole load of people back to AMD and in the end increase the profits a little bit.

My next build is going to be an AMD system. Sods law being an AMD reseller I was offered a complete Dragon system (Phenom 2 X4 920 or 940, motherboard and video card for about £200 including delivery - the CPU was free) but I didn't have the funds. Still I can't complain, I took up the offer of a free Phenom X4 last year and sold a few extra Phenom systems because of it.

Hopefully my next build when funds allow will be an AM3 Phenom on an AM2+ board (I have a stack of DDR2 memory sitting around) and then I'll be able to upgrade to a AM3 board and DDR3 when prices come down a little. Sod buying a Core i7, sure they may be the fastest thing out there but I can't warrant spending in the region of £500 on a board and CPU right now.

Rob

posted by : Rob Beard, 27 April 2009 Complain about this comment
That X2...

is an Athlon X2, the 7750, not the Callisto dualie. The AMD blog post was good though. Chuckled while reading it.

@Someone Special,
I'm running a 720BE QUAD CORE at 3.2Ghz on the stock cooler, in the miserably hot tropical summer. You can't hang AMD for not giving you a quad for the price of a triple core. You get a quad, lucky you, you don't, you've still got a stonker of a processor that defeats the competition (E7500/E8400) pretty nicely at that price point.

Oh and that Phenom FX 7750 branding(refer screenshot in the giggleHD l'inq) sounds verry tempting. Bring it on AMD!

posted by : Ikrana, 27 April 2009 Complain about this comment
AHEM!

May I kindly remind the gentleman from Lá Inq of said article - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/unlock-phenom-ii,review-31556.html

Free lunch? X2 for the price of X4? I think not.

posted by : Someone Special, 27 April 2009 Complain about this comment

AMD X2s are unlockable too

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