PS: sorry, me again: I bet Bolt playing chess...anyone cares? But I didn't dare challenging him running...LOL...get it???

Folks, let's face it: Intel's Nehalem chip ROCKS! And I'm glad to see you pick Linpack to compare Nehalem vs Istanbul: it's the 1 (out of 100) benchmarks where AMD outperforms Intel...please, let's try and be serious when commenting...

We have completed HPL benchmarks on both. The results are detailed on our blog. http://www.advancedclustering.com/company-blog/high-performance-linpack-on-xeon-5500-v-opteron-2400.html

It looks like there has been a role reversal between AMD and Intel on performance. It is now just as important than ever to test your app before buying. There is still not a definitive "winner" between the two.

It really boils down to some simple arithmetics: on Nahelm you have 4 cores with 4 execution units each which, thanks to the HT and IMC, can actually be fed and do something useful in a multi-threaded environment. The Istanbul thing will have 6 cores with 3 execution units each, but their efficiency will be a bit under Nahelm's (because it's less efficient per unit when using 3 units for one thread then 4 units for two threads on HT). So in the end you have 16 units on Nahelm vs 18 slightly less efficient units on Istanbul, so it should be a textbook tie. Well, actually not, because the efficiency of the k10 units is higher then core2's, so to rise, i expect Istanbul to clearly beat Nahelm on a per-clock basis, but question is, will they be able to push it at least at 3GHz (and even so Istanbul will still have a 10% handicap vs Nahelm). All in all, the next half-year intel will reign supreme, but with Istanbul out it's gonna be a tie again.

Most of what has been posted and the claims in the article themselves are bunk. The issue of whose processor is faster was settled by DARPA and NITRD in the HIGH Performance computing competition. The SGI/Intel Nehalam proposal was eliminated first round in evaluations performed by Jack Dongarra, Horst Simon, Kathy Yellick and others who each have forgotten more than the collective knowledge of the computer tabloid press. The winners after the second round were IBM's Blue Waters with the P7 and the AMD/Cray Cascade with the Shanghai. The Networking and Information Technology Research development Office http://www.nitrd.gov/ has more resources, does more rigorous testing, and has more knowledge than the manufacturers themselves. Ask yourself the following two questions why 12months after Roadrunner went to 1 petaflop has Intel failed to produce a petaflop machine? Pleiades is 8 months away. Second if Nehalam is so great do the agencies where cost is no issue buy AMD instead of Intel? By the time Intel hits 1 petaflop AMD and IBM will be approaching 6 petaflops. The answer is very simple Intel doesn't scale past one socket due to limitations of RDMA. I would suggest that every one make the trip to Rome nest month to the IPDPS conference and listen to the presentation of this paper http://post.queensu.ca/~afsahi/PPRL/papers/HPCS08.pdf Intel's architecture is less than 50% efficient in its current configuration when doing nontrivial apps using more than 8k page files.

Comments like 'rip-off of open standard HyperTransport made proprietary' have nothing to do with one product being 'better' than the competition. That's just wining, and no one cares. And the irony of AMD saying Intel needs more cores...

8 month * 30 days * 24 hours = 5760 hours. Let's assume that a single core server plus it's cooling system consume 400 watt ( 0.4 Kilowatt ).
So 9 server operating for 8 month will need 5760 hours * 9 servers * 0.4 kW = 20736 kWh ( kW per hour ). If you pay 29 cents per kWh ( 0.29 $/kWh ) than the cost is 20736 kWh * 0.29 $/kWh = 6013.44 $. ROI depends on how much you pay per kWh and the power consumption of the server and it's cooling system. Spin giant AMD did there "calculation" for a server based in some were cold with the lowest kWh prices in the US.

AMD is low in performance because their microprocessor socket pins count (1207 LGA)still lower than intel (1366 LGA).

I still rememeber when they use to say "Real men own fabs" what happened with that? You might want to go to amdzone they are running low on Kool Aid.

""real men use cores""

Hahahahahaha can't stop laughing at that moron. Hahahahahaha

Real men deliver performance, it doesn't matter _how_ they do it. AMD lacks a feature and he says real men go without that feature. Next he'll say "real men use slower processors".

Reminds me of when AMD accused Intel of using dual-dies for their Core 2 Quads instead of making native quad cores. Intel's Paul Otellini's reply was ""The initial ones are multi-chip, but so what?' You guys are misreading the market if you think people care what's in the package."

Performance is what matters, and AMD has failed to deliver that. They can go on citing Intel's benchmark numbers cut in half or one-fourth (Hyper threading delivers 10% performance improvement?? STHU!). Nobody's going to buy their crap, except fanboys, of course.

The truth is slowest Nehalem quad-core still beats fastest AMD quad-core. AMD should go and die.

Read more about our thoughts on this claim here: http://links.amd.com/Hype.

Hey, can you let us know when AMD "hits back" at Intel with an actual chip, rather than just words? And nothing less than that. K, thanks so much.

There actually is one dual-core Nehalem, the E5502.

http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon5000/specifications.htm?iid=products_xeon5000+tab_specs

SoftWare Selection Makes Server its Particular flavour. Heres some more: Open Graphics Language & Open (standard) COmputer Language. Logic? has anyone tried Logic? if 2 Intels can equal 8 AMD, then seems cool stuff is more likely to work on integrated machinry. Yet with simple-soft Ink, you need turn off fouling software to return to aero, as learned to glitche, & speed makes it smooth. its just check box & its NT5 to NT6. So Much depends on Quality Made In Today. Certainly $75,00 to open bootcamp is steepe, as Intel corrected its' Erring 25M, probably with data gathers from todays Hot Blade, if you bought 100 Intel SSD, Why'd I'd Want any o' this. Intel will trade old for new if you call 2day. So theres quality of Service issue to. If its speed demon SSD, Maybe Speedie Demon MainBoard, too be BIG Booster. Domios, Dialbos' chowMein. Expect Fast Action thruout ''9 playing season.USB3 drashek ithinkicanihopeican DrashTel M.D.