This is no more an autism rights issue than it would be an issue of homophobia if Gary was gay.
Saying that he is a "test case for autism rights" is not just nonsense but harmful nonsense - what right exactly is there to break into foreign military servers?
If a neurotypical would be extradited in the same scenario, then so should Gary - equality does NOT mean immunity from the law.
The guy left some grafitti on government servers. So what? I've left grafitti on government buildings. I even pissed on government buildings(the delight) and it's not criminal -it's freedom of speech and expression. I want to say my bit on an NSA server -they can't deny me. If they do -there is no freedom of speech. I mean: do you think the NSA would bother to read my email?
If we were so tyrannical, and if the UK were truly our puppet, we simply would have sent a group to abduct the man and send him to be interrogated, tortured and imprisoned. Have we done any of that? No. Far be it for us to consider hacking into a restricted foreign government a higher crime than stealing a car. US originally OFFERED 10 years sentence. Fair considering that's what a lot of domestic kids (18-22) get, let alone a 42 year old man.
So, for such a terrible embarrassment on the US you all claim, we offered some pretty lenient terms. Having a 10 year sentence offer for a plea of guilty that would have been reduced to 2-3 years of probation because of the lack of seriousness of the nature of the crime would have been such a horrible punishment for someone who at least caused damage equal to stealing a several high-end cars. At the very least. We're heartbroken... the world will end if we don't prosecute Gary under our brutal Patriot Act!
So Gary is innocent because we are not innocent? I summarized the consensus logic, am I correct? So basically, he shouldn't be punished because we didn't protect ourselves. So by that logic, we didn't protect ourselves against Al Qaeda while they were in friendly Europe plotting under your noses in plain sight. We should have taken whatever action was required for peace and world stability. Then ends would have justified the means, right?
Interesting reading about heroes in other countries like Gary: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/27/60minutes/main4897053.shtml
an innocent city worker making his way home after a day's work. This was on the evening of the protests. The police can clearly be seen striking him from behind. The man had both hands in his trouser pockets, had his back turned to the police and was slowly walking away. He was in no way threatening.
I'm sure some of the cops were wound up after a day of being jeered, spat at, pushed and cajoled, but that doesn't make it ok for them to assault a middle aged man.
Lets see if the cops come forward and tell the whole truth, or if they do the usual "writing statments together" (which is legal and encouraged in the UK, even after a shooting).
Gary McKinnon did some naive grafitti and exposed how lax the US Defence computer security is. He did the US a favour. No doubt plenty of others have sniffed around those computers before him, at least he let them know they were wide open.
Whenever this story is presented, in whatever form and about wany angle, it's remarkable how glossed-over the fact that this guy hacked into computers he shouldn't have and is now protesting over the fact he faces justice..
It's called accountability, Gary, and we should all be accountable for our actions..
It's articles about this guy that elevate hackers to the status of a poor, innocent bystander..nope, think again..looks like the law caught up with your curiosity (next time, I wouldn't bait them with slogans on their systems..always "irks" the authorities, that does)
Err, I would have absolutely no idea, Mark, but just in case you haven't noticed, the Present Ponzi Rendering of the Capitalist System is in Active Meltdown and I suppose one can just imagine them just getting on with their jobs and the job at hand...... for they are almost bound to be Star MultiTaskers and Virtual Wizards.
basically they are saying any demonstrators that come in to London to protest (peaceful or not) are going to get a kicking, i dont know how the government can stand idly, there all dickwauds
Obama the puppet, doesn't have ears for humanity or freedom. He support crimes. Which other lies you want to know what he told the people?
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/inside-story-obamas-roots-president-obamas-family-in-kenya-reveals-it-all
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/where-is-barack-obama-taking-the-americans-impeach-obama-now/
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/senator-barack-obama-in-kenya-obama-and-odinga-the-true-story
www.obamaimpeachment.org
Sign:
www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamaimpeachment
etc
This is no more an autism rights issue than it would be an issue of homophobia if Gary was gay.
Saying that he is a "test case for autism rights" is not just nonsense but harmful nonsense - what right exactly is there to break into foreign military servers?
If a neurotypical would be extradited in the same scenario, then so should Gary - equality does NOT mean immunity from the law.
The guy left some grafitti on government servers. So what? I've left grafitti on government buildings. I even pissed on government buildings(the delight) and it's not criminal -it's freedom of speech and expression. I want to say my bit on an NSA server -they can't deny me. If they do -there is no freedom of speech. I mean: do you think the NSA would bother to read my email?
If we were so tyrannical, and if the UK were truly our puppet, we simply would have sent a group to abduct the man and send him to be interrogated, tortured and imprisoned. Have we done any of that? No. Far be it for us to consider hacking into a restricted foreign government a higher crime than stealing a car. US originally OFFERED 10 years sentence. Fair considering that's what a lot of domestic kids (18-22) get, let alone a 42 year old man.
So, for such a terrible embarrassment on the US you all claim, we offered some pretty lenient terms. Having a 10 year sentence offer for a plea of guilty that would have been reduced to 2-3 years of probation because of the lack of seriousness of the nature of the crime would have been such a horrible punishment for someone who at least caused damage equal to stealing a several high-end cars. At the very least. We're heartbroken... the world will end if we don't prosecute Gary under our brutal Patriot Act!
So Gary is innocent because we are not innocent? I summarized the consensus logic, am I correct? So basically, he shouldn't be punished because we didn't protect ourselves. So by that logic, we didn't protect ourselves against Al Qaeda while they were in friendly Europe plotting under your noses in plain sight. We should have taken whatever action was required for peace and world stability. Then ends would have justified the means, right?
Interesting reading about heroes in other countries like Gary: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/27/60minutes/main4897053.shtml
an innocent city worker making his way home after a day's work. This was on the evening of the protests. The police can clearly be seen striking him from behind. The man had both hands in his trouser pockets, had his back turned to the police and was slowly walking away. He was in no way threatening.
I'm sure some of the cops were wound up after a day of being jeered, spat at, pushed and cajoled, but that doesn't make it ok for them to assault a middle aged man.
Lets see if the cops come forward and tell the whole truth, or if they do the usual "writing statments together" (which is legal and encouraged in the UK, even after a shooting).
Gary McKinnon did some naive grafitti and exposed how lax the US Defence computer security is. He did the US a favour. No doubt plenty of others have sniffed around those computers before him, at least he let them know they were wide open.
All criminals should be prosecuted and punished for their crimes, including hackers.
Whenever this story is presented, in whatever form and about wany angle, it's remarkable how glossed-over the fact that this guy hacked into computers he shouldn't have and is now protesting over the fact he faces justice..
It's called accountability, Gary, and we should all be accountable for our actions..
It's articles about this guy that elevate hackers to the status of a poor, innocent bystander..nope, think again..looks like the law caught up with your curiosity (next time, I wouldn't bait them with slogans on their systems..always "irks" the authorities, that does)
He broke the law..or am I missing something?
Err, I would have absolutely no idea, Mark, but just in case you haven't noticed, the Present Ponzi Rendering of the Capitalist System is in Active Meltdown and I suppose one can just imagine them just getting on with their jobs and the job at hand...... for they are almost bound to be Star MultiTaskers and Virtual Wizards.
basically they are saying any demonstrators that come in to London to protest (peaceful or not) are going to get a kicking, i dont know how the government can stand idly, there all dickwauds