Its funny how most of you just ignore the fact that this is a "translation" of a report from a firm that was paided by AMD. hummm??
"The KFTC opinion does not reflect the reality of the market or what happened. We'll prove that in court" said Mulloy, adding that it was hardly surprising the AAI was siding with AMD as the firm was a paid member and in no way objective.
There are so many holes in this report that just dont make any sense. Bottom line whether or not the consumer was hurt. Thats not clear from the evidence report in this report. Sure AMD was unable to complete, but thats not really what is at stake here. What really matters is if the consumer was hurt by having to pay inflated prices for CPU's. That will be uphill battle as cuz most of you know CPU prices have actually been dropping on avg over the years.
Not saying right or wrong here but, I think I will wait until the matter comes to cort before I make any judgements.
First, EU fines Europeans as well. See this list: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/feb/27/microsoft.europe2
The only american company I recognize is MS... fined by the States too.
Second, "cajones" means "drawers" and "cojones" means "balls". I don't know if it's cool to have drawers to do something...
Why would they rule against Samsung on this issue?
I guess some people here have gripes against Samsung and like to air them on any occasion. (Intel employees, perhaps?)
Samsung did the same thing Dell did, and as I recall the only way Dell got in hot water was because they didn't report the extent of the Intel bribe to their shareholders (and how they would have a corresponding loss of income when they discontinued the bribe from Intel).
As for the poster who decided it was "cool" to correct my spelling, I'll admit I make the occasional mistake. But I spelled cojones correctly, which is to say I meant "bollocks." Cajones is also a Spanish word, but it means "drawers" (furniture item).
And to another poster, yes, I would like to see a truly HUGE fine against Intel, because big American businesses will walk all over Europe if the courts let them. It's just the way that game is played.
If they go after Intel then they need to go after Samsung as well and that's not going to happen in Korea. That would be like bringing the big three to court in the states only it happens to be the 'big one' in Korea.
It's been confimred for years that Intel was violating anti-trust laws to eliminate any competition in the marketplace. The only question is will Korea fine Intel $500 BILLION dollars to stop this chronic violation of law?
So they are going to rule against Samsung too? (right?)
So, any updates on the Fair Trade Commission taking action against Samsung, who went along with the rebate program and also benefited? Oh, that's right, we are using the EU antitrust model where only foreign firms are held accountable and the national firms are apparently unwitting dupes...
So I understand - Intel was found to use unfair practices, but Samsung was an unwitting or unwilling participant and can wash its own hand for their participation in "unfair practices"(poor, weak Samsung, such a small company being bullied by Intel)?
To the poster above... 'solid sounding' is the key - it's not like this was done in a court and used actual evidentiary procedures (of course the EU is no different). And it's "cajones', if you are going to try and sound cool... you should at least get it right.
... it's sad that Korea's penalties on Intel weren't more severe. As I understand it, Intel was reprimanded and that's about it.
Hopefully the EU has the cojones to stand up to Intel.
As far as the US case goes ... judging from recent events in the financial sector, I imagine the US will not only fail to scold Intel for its practices, they'll probably pat it on the back and award it a few billion dollars.
Its funny how most of you just ignore the fact that this is a "translation" of a report from a firm that was paided by AMD. hummm??
"The KFTC opinion does not reflect the reality of the market or what happened. We'll prove that in court" said Mulloy, adding that it was hardly surprising the AAI was siding with AMD as the firm was a paid member and in no way objective.
There are so many holes in this report that just dont make any sense. Bottom line whether or not the consumer was hurt. Thats not clear from the evidence report in this report. Sure AMD was unable to complete, but thats not really what is at stake here. What really matters is if the consumer was hurt by having to pay inflated prices for CPU's. That will be uphill battle as cuz most of you know CPU prices have actually been dropping on avg over the years.
Not saying right or wrong here but, I think I will wait until the matter comes to cort before I make any judgements.
You're so mistaken I don't know where to begin.
First, EU fines Europeans as well. See this list: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/feb/27/microsoft.europe2
The only american company I recognize is MS... fined by the States too.
Second, "cajones" means "drawers" and "cojones" means "balls". I don't know if it's cool to have drawers to do something...
But don't let reality ruin your magic kingdom
Prison is for people who steal less than $100 000.
If you steal more, you are just an overzealous executive who has already suffered enough from the negative publicity.
If you do it using your corporation, you are never named or shamed at all!
If you steal a carton of cigarettes, then we can talk prison...
Shurely Intel execs should be facing life sentences for this global theft of billions from so many people.
I guess some people here have gripes against Samsung and like to air them on any occasion. (Intel employees, perhaps?)
Samsung did the same thing Dell did, and as I recall the only way Dell got in hot water was because they didn't report the extent of the Intel bribe to their shareholders (and how they would have a corresponding loss of income when they discontinued the bribe from Intel).
As for the poster who decided it was "cool" to correct my spelling, I'll admit I make the occasional mistake. But I spelled cojones correctly, which is to say I meant "bollocks." Cajones is also a Spanish word, but it means "drawers" (furniture item).
And to another poster, yes, I would like to see a truly HUGE fine against Intel, because big American businesses will walk all over Europe if the courts let them. It's just the way that game is played.
To a previous poster who mentioned fines... Well gee, wouldn't you like to see (foreign) governments lining their pockets with these rulings?
Like it'll actually do anyone any good, except those governments and their coffers, of course!
Fine, fine, fine away...
If they go after Intel then they need to go after Samsung as well and that's not going to happen in Korea. That would be like bringing the big three to court in the states only it happens to be the 'big one' in Korea.
It's been confimred for years that Intel was violating anti-trust laws to eliminate any competition in the marketplace. The only question is will Korea fine Intel $500 BILLION dollars to stop this chronic violation of law?
So, any updates on the Fair Trade Commission taking action against Samsung, who went along with the rebate program and also benefited? Oh, that's right, we are using the EU antitrust model where only foreign firms are held accountable and the national firms are apparently unwitting dupes...
So I understand - Intel was found to use unfair practices, but Samsung was an unwitting or unwilling participant and can wash its own hand for their participation in "unfair practices"(poor, weak Samsung, such a small company being bullied by Intel)?
To the poster above... 'solid sounding' is the key - it's not like this was done in a court and used actual evidentiary procedures (of course the EU is no different). And it's "cajones', if you are going to try and sound cool... you should at least get it right.
... it's sad that Korea's penalties on Intel weren't more severe. As I understand it, Intel was reprimanded and that's about it.
Hopefully the EU has the cojones to stand up to Intel.
As far as the US case goes ... judging from recent events in the financial sector, I imagine the US will not only fail to scold Intel for its practices, they'll probably pat it on the back and award it a few billion dollars.
Sylvie could write an anti-Intel article? This must be a one-time only I reckon. I still won't sleep with you, Sylvie. Shalom
i really love to see the verdict in EU sooner. Hope is not as bad as Microsoft case.