Having heard that "Firemen" album, all I can say is "my ears!". Unlistenable self-indulgent toss. Maybe Macca was in a good band once, but we really need to stop fawning now- he's not a "musical genius" these days, just a serial sonic onanist.

As to Gnus and Roses.. well, enough said, really. It was hair metal for secretaries even when it was popular, no need to give further validation to the wife-beating talentless alchoholic screecher.

Don't encourage either of them, please. Failiure to sod off is a terrible thing, just look at Cliff Richard.

Bah, after that rant, I need something soothing to listen to, none of the above..

Chinese Democracy is perhaps the most brilliant example of early 1990's GnR I have heard. It really is an excellent album, Rose has perfected the music GnR made fifteen years ago. It is already on my play list with Rattle n Hum. I am not being sarcastic, it is an excellent album.

Maybe in the next GnR album Rose will move forward: I think he can and I expect it would be a fantastic album. Rose is capable of perfection in the genre he helped create, I think he can move it forward.

Paul's is already torrented up.