Stewart,
You are misunderstanding several key points. For example, in your point #1 you equate sales with profit. No, that's gross income. Profit takes into account costs.

They have to build the FAB first, before they can make any DRAMs. That can cost Billions, which must be financed, which means interest and payments. 

If the FAB sits unused, they don't make zero -- they lose huge. It then makes sense to produce DRAMs even at a loss, because it produces cash flow allowing them to make their payments, and the loss is less than the cost of sitting idle. 

In other words, production makes them money -- just not enough to cover their (already expended) capital costs + interest.


You are obviously not well informed about how these markets and costs work.

Just because they don't produce chips doesn't mean they aren't having to maintain their equipment, paying their employees, etc. Also, selling chips for less money is much better than not selling chips for no money, since they have these fixed costs to cover either way. That's how they post billions in losses.
Instead of a bailout they could just pass a law that says companies are not allowed to pay debt for 2 years, same effect.

Now having said that, and so having put it in another light, think once more about what a bailout means and accomplishes.
If you were successful you should now be at the point were you say 'we need some sort of international solution' :)

I myself am pretty confident the crisis is caused by bush feeding the greed of the fat cats until their brains overloaded, so perhaps the only real solution is medicating the big players (I mean actual medication for the actual people, CEO and such, this was not meant symbolic).
Just watch them on business newsshows to see what I mean.
this is not making any sense at all. 
how can companies all of a sudden post millions if not billions in losses. 
1.you sell products or you dont, this is called profit and loss 

2.if your not selling then dont make, this is called taking preventitive measures 

3.you lay off your workers if they are not needed.

so which or all of this did they not follow because either they made alot of ram, and its still sitting at their factory, or they didnt make any, which would mean there is no money spent, so why the big losses? ohh thats right OIL. I think the equivelent SEC should look into this as this sounds very fishy to me, the computer world has been pretty much isolated by all this economic fallout, I mean there has been some lay offs etc, but noone is posting losses like this, and thats because you are full of shit. 
I want to know where their money went. unless they were investing it in the US housing market, then they should have a nice fat bank account. I think someone is in alot of trouble here
Stewart,
You are misunderstanding several key points. For example, in your point #1 you equate sales with profit. No, that's gross income. Profit takes into account costs.

They have to build the FAB first, before they can make any DRAMs. That can cost Billions, which must be financed, which means interest and payments. 

If the FAB sits unused, they don't make zero -- they lose huge. It then makes sense to produce DRAMs even at a loss, because it produces cash flow allowing them to make their payments, and the loss is less than the cost of sitting idle. 

In other words, production makes them money -- just not enough to cover their (already expended) capital costs + interest.


You are obviously not well informed about how these markets and costs work.

Just because they don't produce chips doesn't mean they aren't having to maintain their equipment, paying their employees, etc. Also, selling chips for less money is much better than not selling chips for no money, since they have these fixed costs to cover either way. That's how they post billions in losses.
Instead of a bailout they could just pass a law that says companies are not allowed to pay debt for 2 years, same effect.

Now having said that, and so having put it in another light, think once more about what a bailout means and accomplishes.
If you were successful you should now be at the point were you say 'we need some sort of international solution' :)

I myself am pretty confident the crisis is caused by bush feeding the greed of the fat cats until their brains overloaded, so perhaps the only real solution is medicating the big players (I mean actual medication for the actual people, CEO and such, this was not meant symbolic).
Just watch them on business newsshows to see what I mean.
this is not making any sense at all. 
how can companies all of a sudden post millions if not billions in losses. 
1.you sell products or you dont, this is called profit and loss 

2.if your not selling then dont make, this is called taking preventitive measures 

3.you lay off your workers if they are not needed.

so which or all of this did they not follow because either they made alot of ram, and its still sitting at their factory, or they didnt make any, which would mean there is no money spent, so why the big losses? ohh thats right OIL. I think the equivelent SEC should look into this as this sounds very fishy to me, the computer world has been pretty much isolated by all this economic fallout, I mean there has been some lay offs etc, but noone is posting losses like this, and thats because you are full of shit. 
I want to know where their money went. unless they were investing it in the US housing market, then they should have a nice fat bank account. I think someone is in alot of trouble here