to be able to send mails using your yahoo.co.uk accounnt just use the default settings. do not configure your email settings manually. Just follow the wizard to set it up and then sending will be a breeze. i used to be able to recieve and not send. but after doing this it works perfectly now. I am wondering how to set up my uni email on it though. The tmobile uk smtp address i have does not seem to connect. If anyone knows can you post it here

I got my G1 almost a month now and not even the t-mobile reps. can't help me add my major e-mail account to the phone. I am currently living in the US but I still use yahoo.co.uk as my main e-mail address and when I had my sidekick LX I had no problems whatsoever viewing my e-mail on it now I'm so pissed I got this phone because it just won't work for me. Please help someone.

P. S it's also way off on the gps telling me I'm 4 blocks away from where I really am.

This is an awesome phone so I don't understand the bad press out there. I got one about a week ago and already can't imagine my life without it. Downloaded 40+ apps first night over my home's wifi. Currently bidding on ebay and reformatted lots of pron into MP4. Not to mention that you do not even need to sign up for a data plan to get & send your gmail. I am a big google fan, and this little thingie is perfect. Two shortcomings - battery life and camera could be higher-quality (like Nokia's 5MP cams that practically replace a need for a standalone digicam).

All you have to do is hold down on the text message you want to forward and the G1 displays an additional menu with the forwarding option!!!

G1, in its original form, does not have recording capabilities but there is an app that records video already!!!

And A2DP and Bluetooth File Transfer capabilities will be issued in an OTA soon.

...that most cell phones encrypt their boot image with a nonpublic key that is burned into the CPUs one time programmable ROM.

This is largely done to prevend hacking, specifically of the network credentials of your SIM.

Curios if the G1 does this. If so then all the hope of a phone OS "for the people" will not really matter.

Not everyone is a google fanboy. I, for one, will not be caught with my hand in the cookie jar marked evil when the masks fall at midnight.

ps I will probably have been taken out back and shot long before then...

No IM services other than Gtalk are supported on the UK build of the OS. 

I spoke with some of the staff at Google in #android, and they say the reason is that most protocols were not designed for a device that can roam (And hence change IP).

Once your IP changes you'll have to have the connection re-established and any missed messages re-sent. 

Most IM protocols don't support this.

Their solution was for the provider (T-Mobile) to run a server that connects to all your IM accounts, then your phone connects to the server which runs its own protocol that handles the changing ip addresses of the client.

It seams that T-Mobile US made an arrangement to run such a server (at a cost to the end user).

No such arrangement has been made with T-Mobile UK and as such no support of protocols other than Gtalk are available in the UK.

There are some solutions for UK G1 owners, there are two multi-protocol IM clients available from the market, IM+ and Meebo.

IM+ at last look was a bit rubbish - it suffered from constant crashing and also suffered from the roaming issue and as a result you would get frequent disconnects (especially when using wifi as your device disconnects and reverts to edge when the phone sleeps)

Meebo is alot better, but far from perfect. Meebo has a similar server side client to T-Mobile US, but the phone side client falls short of perfect.

Unfortunately you can't use the built-in email clients if your POP/IMAP/SMTP provider uses SSL certificates that aren't signed by one of the bundled CAs. Likewise you can't securely browse to web sites that have private certs either.

I think this is a pretty big mistake; telcos obviously like to have control over the security of what connects to their network, but when you start marketing a device with features like this, you have to offer provisions for end-users to be able to make security decisions.

On the same front - the WiFi has absolutely zero support for WPA-Enterprise, which is a deal-breaker for a lot of corporate WiFi sites. Again, WPA-Enterprise setups are based on X.509 certificates, and again there is no mechanism to install your own CA certs.

It's obvious that the Google/T-mobile folks haven't clearly thought through all the usability aspects of this phone.

Using the recently posted root hack I was able to install my own CA certs to solve most of these problems, but users shouldn't be forced to hack their phones just to get the advertised functionality. Nor should users have to live in fear of the next OTA update wiping out all of their hard work, dropping them back to square one.

8 out of 10 for a review filled with bugs, missing features and limitations worse that Cupertino's? Look, I hate the iBrick as much as the next guy who has two brain-cells to rub together, but your review paints a picture worse than the fruity offering. How much was slid under the table to you for this one then?

"Google fanboys will love the G1"
Aren't we all Google fanboys?