Intel fans, such as shakey, damage, and zgreen, might as face the truth. They wouldn't buy AMD no matter what, and would buy Intel even if their product is inferior, like they probably thought the Pentium 4 was superior and not sub par to the Athlon 64.
"up is down, wrong is wright and war is peace, right?"
That's Right. And the Pentium 4 is better than the Athlon 64 and Intel isn't a trade criminal either. That question coming from an Intel fan who probably also thinks bribing suppliers to not carry the competitions products is ok too. So apparently zgreen must believe all of that. That up is down, wrong is wright and war is peace.
The Phenom was phenominal. It was the first main stream CPU that had single die quad CPUs, instead of the fake dual dual core by Intel, and first to integrate the memory controller on the CPU, years behind AMD.
I for one am happy to see some of the newer processors still able to run on an AM2+ motherboard. For those of us still trying to squeeze the most out of our aging AM2+ builds, the Phenom 940 looks like the way to go if you're not afraid of a little tweaking.
Im just continue to wonder why the Intel ignorants continue to doom say AMD. If intel could just simply lower their prices and POOF AMD is gone then it would have happened years ago. The reason AMD is still competing and will continue to do so is because they produce higher yeilds of chips and thus can out price. Intels Core i7 wont be cheap as chips over night. Its gonna take a while for intel to get their yeilds up on this cpu as its incorperating alot of new tech that AMD have had a number of years to work out how to mass produce cheaply.

After you see the benches on the new Shanghai its pretty certain AMD is going to compete very well or even corner the Price / Performance market for 2009.

Core i7 will be faster but its going to be $$$!
I believe some of your posted wattage for the cpus are a bit off. 

Phenom 
I agree with the 2.9 and 3.0 ghz ones but for the rest it should be way lower than 95 watts. Since the cpus are based off shanghai server cpus and the top-most cpu running at 2.7ghz is at 75 watts and the ones below it run at 65 watts or less then shouldn't that mean the same for the phenoms? Also its way redicules to put the tri-core ones at 95 watts because they would run with way less watts simular to the ones out there now.
It would be really great if there was an Athlon X4 upgrade path for my 65watt Board, but unless I'm missing something, that just won't be happening. At best, I can hope for current 65watt Athlon 64X2s to drop in price at least by January. At worst, no upgrade path beyond that. My next PC will likely be Intel, unfortunately, unless AMD provides a compelling reason to remain with them.....
This seems weird as we see a 3GHz of Deneb launching on January with support for DDR2 only and then later on we don't see anything clocked any higher or at the same speed and no AM3 unlocked Phenom II!!!
I built myself a budget gaming maching 18 months ago using an AM2+ motherboard, 4GB 1066 DDR2 and a Athlon 5000. Popping in a Phenom II X4 940 should keep me happy for a couple more years. Was just considering rebuilding an Intel based machine but I think that thought is on hold now. This is really good news for us that already have AM2+ motherboards...very easy/cheap upgrade path.
So...
Phenom wasn't all that phenomenal?
Phenom II might aswell be called Oximoron, but hey - up is down, wrong is wright and war is peace, right?
Is another year of crappy sub-par CPUs. At least they got their ageing atherlon64 based quad upto 3Ghz, shame its only carrying 8MB cache.

Maybe I can use it in my router?
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Intel fans, such as shakey, damage, and zgreen, might as face the truth. They wouldn't buy AMD no matter what, and would buy Intel even if their product is inferior, like they probably thought the Pentium 4 was superior and not sub par to the Athlon 64.
"up is down, wrong is wright and war is peace, right?"
That's Right. And the Pentium 4 is better than the Athlon 64 and Intel isn't a trade criminal either. That question coming from an Intel fan who probably also thinks bribing suppliers to not carry the competitions products is ok too. So apparently zgreen must believe all of that. That up is down, wrong is wright and war is peace.
The Phenom was phenominal. It was the first main stream CPU that had single die quad CPUs, instead of the fake dual dual core by Intel, and first to integrate the memory controller on the CPU, years behind AMD.
I for one am happy to see some of the newer processors still able to run on an AM2+ motherboard. For those of us still trying to squeeze the most out of our aging AM2+ builds, the Phenom 940 looks like the way to go if you're not afraid of a little tweaking.
I am amazed by the morons who don't seem to care if AMD goes under. We will all suffer immensely if we end up with only Intel as our CPU supplier.
Im just continue to wonder why the Intel ignorants continue to doom say AMD. If intel could just simply lower their prices and POOF AMD is gone then it would have happened years ago. The reason AMD is still competing and will continue to do so is because they produce higher yeilds of chips and thus can out price. Intels Core i7 wont be cheap as chips over night. Its gonna take a while for intel to get their yeilds up on this cpu as its incorperating alot of new tech that AMD have had a number of years to work out how to mass produce cheaply.

After you see the benches on the new Shanghai its pretty certain AMD is going to compete very well or even corner the Price / Performance market for 2009.

Core i7 will be faster but its going to be $$$!
Interesting use of language, I notice that no-one has noticed it. Damn that dam!
I believe some of your posted wattage for the cpus are a bit off. 

Phenom 
I agree with the 2.9 and 3.0 ghz ones but for the rest it should be way lower than 95 watts. Since the cpus are based off shanghai server cpus and the top-most cpu running at 2.7ghz is at 75 watts and the ones below it run at 65 watts or less then shouldn't that mean the same for the phenoms? Also its way redicules to put the tri-core ones at 95 watts because they would run with way less watts simular to the ones out there now.
It would be really great if there was an Athlon X4 upgrade path for my 65watt Board, but unless I'm missing something, that just won't be happening. At best, I can hope for current 65watt Athlon 64X2s to drop in price at least by January. At worst, no upgrade path beyond that. My next PC will likely be Intel, unfortunately, unless AMD provides a compelling reason to remain with them.....
AMD is waiting what Intel will do before announcing more high-end parts.
This seems weird as we see a 3GHz of Deneb launching on January with support for DDR2 only and then later on we don't see anything clocked any higher or at the same speed and no AM3 unlocked Phenom II!!!
I built myself a budget gaming maching 18 months ago using an AM2+ motherboard, 4GB 1066 DDR2 and a Athlon 5000. Popping in a Phenom II X4 940 should keep me happy for a couple more years. Was just considering rebuilding an Intel based machine but I think that thought is on hold now. This is really good news for us that already have AM2+ motherboards...very easy/cheap upgrade path.
Intel will just lower their prices.
So...
Phenom wasn't all that phenomenal?
Phenom II might aswell be called Oximoron, but hey - up is down, wrong is wright and war is peace, right?
Is another year of crappy sub-par CPUs. At least they got their ageing atherlon64 based quad upto 3Ghz, shame its only carrying 8MB cache.

Maybe I can use it in my router?