I agree with brainkilla in one thing - I will buy AMD as long as they will be in market. But I personaly prefer people who play game by rules. That marketing step wasn't wrong step. That way AMD said that they will play this hard for them game honestly to the end. And many users like me heard it right - AMD will not hide the truth! I can forgive many things but I hate lie!
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BTW, seven out of top 10 supercomputers build on AMD CPUs. Two - on IBM PowerCell CPUs (?) and one - on Intel Xeon. No, Intel CPUs are not bad, they are just expensive! So my home supercomputer will be on AMD too ;)

Has our world ever been an honest man's world? Clearly not, and honesty DOES NOT pay, especially in business. However, as long as AMD stays in the game, I will be buying their CPUs. Because those cute bastards from Intel sorely need competition...

If you read the document that supposedly is from last year and supposedly contains Core 2 Duo errata, it clearly has on every page:

"Intel® Core™ i7 Processor
Specification Update, November 2008"

Nice try Intel, but unfortunately some people can read.

Has anyone else noticed the two phrases in the document #320834 page #7:

* Supports Intel 64 Architecture

* Optimized for 32-bit applications runnig on advanced 32-bit operating systems

Two thoughts come to mind:

1) My impression of AMD's approach to the x86 arch has been design for AMD64 and support backward compatibility w/ x86-32, while Intel designs for x86-32 w/ support for iAMD64.

2) Does Intel still not want to "fully" support iAMD64 in an optimal fashion, in an effort to avoid undermining the good-ship Itanic?

Me wants more 64-bit benchmarks...

HB

Let's see...
AMD has a TLB bug in Barcelona that causes system hangs under rare, but recreatable circumstances.
AMD comes clean and takes a massive hit in the market and on Wall Street, still talked about today - "The infamous TLB bug" "AMD Barcelona mucho massive suckage" etc.

Intel has a Core i7 TLB bug that causes system hangs under rare, but recreatable conditions.
Intel does not come clean, looks the other way, takes no hit in the market and no hit on Wall Street.

So.... either AMD's PR dept. is incredibly dumb, or Intel's business ethics are incredibly impaired.

Not sure of the answer here, but after reading about the infamous Intel/Microsoft/Screw HP/Screw The Customer "Vista Capable" fiasco, I'm leaning towards Intel's market ethics being in need of a revamp.

Admitting a TLB bug like AMD did with barcelona is clearly the wrong way.
AMD only got bad publicity by being honest intel doens't want the same thing.

So essentially its the same sort of issue AMD had with Barcelona? Funny, one company does poorly based on such a thing but I daresay people will still buy the i7 regardless.

Mind you, Barcelona lack of performance probably didn't help matters much.