Do you really think electronic voting fraud is done by some twat standing beside the machine? lol too funny....

The vulnerabilty is remote hacking, theyre all networked...

to put in perpective read the following

http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/evoting.ars

Any government that pushes electronic voting has a hidden agenda, and therefore is no longer democratic. there is no way to rationalize a system that leaves no "paper" trail for something as important as an election.

Wake up people, before democrasy gets eroded right from under your feet, and you fall through below to whats waiting there for the stupid, gullible and apathetic.

I'm surprised to see l'Ing refer to chad...

All us old timers that actually used punch cards know that chaff from the punches was the perfect thing to drop in the back of someones shirt.

No chads on us, that's an ignorant reporter's error.

Listen to the man from Basil!

Electronic voting machines are vulnerable to counting fraud "IF" someone has inappropriate access to the machines to make the changes. Normally, you have both a republican and a democrat present to make sure there is no tampering. Its not as if some voter can walk up to the machine and punch in some keys and change the vote counts for everyone. But put a spook into everyone and the clueless politicians will make a mass change.

So they waste a lot of money because people weren't smart enough to use the punch system, so they go to a modern system that was easy to use, then scrap it because they got spooked.

So who is getting the kickbacks for all this money spent on voting machines?

Man, down here on Brasil we are using touch screen voting for ages, i belive for the las 10 years or so... 
"highly vulnerable to vote counting fraud" are u joking? i mean wtf was the first bush election on usa? And their all used paper voting, but if u don´t realized they are all counted with computers so what´s the diference in frauds?
We are a third world contry but we got HD televison for free, and touch screen voting that will very soon use optical scan to identify the voters. 
p.s I don´t realy care for grammatical errors. chers.

I really have to wonder what the point is in all of this. Here in Finland all votes are on paper, written by hand, and counted by hand. And counted by hand in 8 hours or so. The election result is quite well known way before that.

Every citizen has the right to vote, and AFAIK the voter turnout is much much better than in the states, so there are quite a few votes to count too.

I also think this is the way it's done in most of the _real_ democracies out there.

The first thing that needs to be changed in the states is the ridiculously complicated ballots. Then you can count the votes by hand, and much faster, too.

And the way I think about automated counting / electronic voting is that it only takes one "bad" person to skew an election, as in the hand counting it only takes one "good" person to prevent a skew from happening.

Elections don't come cheap and I don't think the real cost is actually in counting the votes, but not saving there means the election result is what the people voted.