We should also remember that the Intel 16 and 32 bit ISA's were evolved from the original 8008, the instruction set of which was designed by CDC. Therefor Intels whole line of x86 chips derives from a CDC design which they copied. So since Intel copied AMD's 64 bit ISA, that makes Intel having copied an ISA twice (CDC then AMD), AMD once (Intel). Two to one in AMD's favour.
It is also helpful to reflect on the fact taht while AMD may have copied the ISA (as Intel originally did from DCD) they still designed the micro-architecture (imported from companies they purchased) as does Intel. Thats where the time effort and skill mostly go. Designing an ISA must be childs play relatively speaking compared to the micro-architecture, so both Intel and AMD deserve the credit for their own designs.

All Billions are equal unless you're a hard drive manufacturer, in which case some how 1,000,000,000 = 1,073,741,824 or is it the other way around.

Thus your new WD 320GB laptop drive only hold 298GB in the real world.



Guys, the thing is that billion US dollars is still different from billion British Pounds! I think this is the only difference.......

"Same darn L3 bug that existed in ALL AMD mp capables"

Well, considering AMD never used L3 before, I guess it existed in "all zero of them"...

In my EU country we generally avoid the billion altogether and use milliard, meaning one thousand million.

Btw, Wikipedia has some lucid info on the subject and the history and differences, for those not afraid of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales

AMD L3 bug - Richard B
Newsflash: AMD has never utilized an L3 cache before, so this couldn't be a pre-existing bug.

Numbnuts
posted by : shaidarharan, 07 December 2007
Newsflash: Numbnuts
AMD did use L3 cache in the K6-3 and K6-3+ CPU's. Or were they before your time?
posted by : Moe Tard, 07 December 2007

I don't think that would qualify as the same thing. The K6-3 contained no on die L3 like the K10 does. The K6-3 was AMD's first chip with on die L2 cache, while the L3 was simply SRAM chips located on the motherboard that were riding the FSB along with SDRAM. It's probably also worth noting that not all motherboards even had the onboard SRAM that would become the K6-3's L3, and could be disabled in BIOS. Aside from sharing the name "L3" I seriously doubt they share much else in common.

It seems that you're right, it is possible to have a L3 for K6-III, but it was an on-motherboard 1MB chip. I would hardly consider that as an exclusively AMD problem unless it's on-die.

K7 and later are based on licensed tech, and have absolutely nothing in common with K6. In addition, K6 had its L3 cache off chip which isn't even remotely similar to the modern way of doing things. Unless some bizarre, supernatural event is causing AMD to have trouble with L3, there is no correlation between bugs in K6 and bugs in K7-10. Or was the K6 before your time?

AMD has had an L3 cache bug since K7? This is the first time they've done an L3 cache, ever. Which universe were you from where AMD had an L3 in their K7 processors?

AMD did use L3 cache in the K6-3 and K6-3+ CPU's. Or were they before your time?

Newsflash: AMD has never utilized an L3 cache before, so this couldn't be a pre-existing bug.

Numbnuts

The British Billion is 1,000,000 x 1,000,000

However since this is rarely ever entertained in financial circles, we use the US billion which is 1000 X 1,000,000 in everyday language. 

however the are correct in that the British billion is 1,000,000 x 1,000,000

The only ones that know exactly what a Billion is are Americans, as their Billion is: 1000,000,000

Where European (no thanks to the USA) can decide to use either:

1000,000,000 (USA)

OR 

1,000,000,000,000 (European countries)

But that's not the only trouble, see for yourself:

http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutwords/billion?view=uk

A Billion here in the UK is commonly known as one million million (1,000,000,000,000) whereas the yanks of course use the term Billion to mean one thousand Million. 

I don't know what educational facilities have been teaching you the merkin Billion but make them STOP!