I'm due for an Orange upgrade at the beginning of February. Coming from the originl N95 I am likely to go for the N96... unless Orange get the iPhone. Can you see it happening this year?
Not sure I agree about businesses not using them unless they are free (which they can be depending on the size of the monthly spend anyway). 

The iphone is hands down a better device than the Crack-Berry and business people use that like, well, crack ;) Having said that perhaps the low sales via O2 are indicative of the low interest (or just plain old FUD) from business users. 

Just my $0.02 worth
"better title
don't tell me you guys didn't think about "apple turns to orange"?
posted by : h paul, 26 July 2008 "

you mean it should be "apple turns to lemon"?
One sure way to (further) cripple the Iphone's UK consumer sales is to make it available solely on Orange. Locking it into O2 was bad, very bad. Locking it into Orange would be worse than requiring users have a pound of flesh cut off in-store as part of the registration process.
Won't that just mean that easily distracted workers get distracted more easily? And doesn't it just give the workers more reason to muck about?

who needs an iphone for work?

Anyways I prefer the HTC Touch Pro with Windows, Excel, Word, Outlook etc. I know MS is so passe and a convicted monopolist but still it's software is well known.
Who cares?

It's a well known fact businesses never buy the latest products unless it's for a very specialised purpose.

For lots of reasons, (many of them very valid) including cost, bugs and general reliability. Mostly the reason an Iphone, htc touch, centrino 2, Vista etc etc is sold at a premium simply because it's new. They'll pump them off to business once they aren't the glint in consumers eyes.

Here, I'll let you in on a little secret... the only reason telcos give handsets away free on contract is because they couldn't sell them even if they wanted to. (got to give you a reason to lock you into a contract eh?)

I work for one of the companies you mention above.... we all got brand new workstations last year .... Celerons running xp w/ either 256 or 512mb or RAM .. wooot

Almost enough for Citrix, Crystal, VLTS and CTI (jesus if you're gonna make me use IE give me tabs!)

Why? why the fuck why? They got them cheap and in massive quantities.... just like yourself.
Unless the phones are provided free to businesses, no matter who the provider is (O2, Orange, Virgin, Vodafone etc) 

Don't expect businesses to use them.

My business will never ever pay for a phone or blackberry, if it aint free with the contract it wont be in my pocket.

I'm sure other businesses will find a better use for £100 per phone too
I'm due for an Orange upgrade at the beginning of February. Coming from the originl N95 I am likely to go for the N96... unless Orange get the iPhone. Can you see it happening this year?
Not sure I agree about businesses not using them unless they are free (which they can be depending on the size of the monthly spend anyway). 

The iphone is hands down a better device than the Crack-Berry and business people use that like, well, crack ;) Having said that perhaps the low sales via O2 are indicative of the low interest (or just plain old FUD) from business users. 

Just my $0.02 worth
"better title
don't tell me you guys didn't think about "apple turns to orange"?
posted by : h paul, 26 July 2008 "

you mean it should be "apple turns to lemon"?

the DROIDMATRIX continues to expand exponentially, world domination gets ever closer, rejoice, rejoice fellow DROIDS :O)
One sure way to (further) cripple the Iphone's UK consumer sales is to make it available solely on Orange. Locking it into O2 was bad, very bad. Locking it into Orange would be worse than requiring users have a pound of flesh cut off in-store as part of the registration process.
Won't that just mean that easily distracted workers get distracted more easily? And doesn't it just give the workers more reason to muck about?

who needs an iphone for work?

Anyways I prefer the HTC Touch Pro with Windows, Excel, Word, Outlook etc. I know MS is so passe and a convicted monopolist but still it's software is well known.
don't tell me you guys didn't think about "apple turns to orange"?
Who cares?

It's a well known fact businesses never buy the latest products unless it's for a very specialised purpose.

For lots of reasons, (many of them very valid) including cost, bugs and general reliability. Mostly the reason an Iphone, htc touch, centrino 2, Vista etc etc is sold at a premium simply because it's new. They'll pump them off to business once they aren't the glint in consumers eyes.

Here, I'll let you in on a little secret... the only reason telcos give handsets away free on contract is because they couldn't sell them even if they wanted to. (got to give you a reason to lock you into a contract eh?)

I work for one of the companies you mention above.... we all got brand new workstations last year .... Celerons running xp w/ either 256 or 512mb or RAM .. wooot

Almost enough for Citrix, Crystal, VLTS and CTI (jesus if you're gonna make me use IE give me tabs!)

Why? why the fuck why? They got them cheap and in massive quantities.... just like yourself.
Unless the phones are provided free to businesses, no matter who the provider is (O2, Orange, Virgin, Vodafone etc) 

Don't expect businesses to use them.

My business will never ever pay for a phone or blackberry, if it aint free with the contract it wont be in my pocket.

I'm sure other businesses will find a better use for £100 per phone too