Is this one going to have the um..errm... Nvidia "optimisations" that previous versions had.

Like the ones that accidently ended up in the earlier versions?

You know, that genuine programming error that somehow managed to encompass all the out of view detail allowing it not to be rendered by Nvidia cards, which very unfortunately, (don't know how it happened at all, such a terrible mistake) allowed a huge score boost.

I really hope not, it would be such a terrible shame if this softwares flawless reputation for neutrality was damaged by another genuine error.

I think that your comment is totally unprofessional...i was reading the article to find out about vantage tests, i wasn't interested in your opinion about windows Vista. Not to mention, if you have something to say about vista, than prove that you know what you are talking about...bring some arguments. When XP first hit the market ppl just like you said the same things about it, now it's vista's turn. My advice...stop being an amateur, you want to make something in a professional manner-go ahead, i'll read your articles and perhaps add something useful here and there; you wanna act like a hardware newbie then stop posting...reading your articles would be just a waste of time
PS.no, i do not work with microsoft nor do i support crappy software, but i the same time i can't stand ppl ptretending to know everything and bragging about it.

"you can't get DX10 any other way. Since this is a DX10 benchmark..."
That's not true, since the first official demos for DX10 hardware were written in OpenGL they could have used that as basis for their test, except of course the vole would get snippy..
And before you say "that doesn't gauge DX10" I'd like to point out that DX10.1 is out and this benchmark doesn't gauge present/future vista anyway because it only does DX10.0 so only tests for an outdated version of vista and DX10.

Amid all the opinions pressed forth concerning Vista, there is one reference that everyone is studiously avoiding : the Steam Survey.
For those of you who do not know about it, Valve has a very interesting application that regularly polls users of Steam and asks them if they want to participate.
The result is a collection of computer hardware configurations that annihilates all preconceptions concerning who has what.
Proof ? Simple. As of this writing, consulting the survey results gives the following :

Unique Samples : 1,653,421 (that means over a million and a half people have contributed - if you think that's not enough, remember that opinion polls are typically taken on less than 2000 people)

Windows Version :
XP - 81,15%
Vista - 17,38%

Vista with DX10 GPU : 9,44%

So there it is. FutureMark has a market of less than 9,5% of PC users. Probably a lot less, by the way, since Steam only records results from gamers and, as has been mentioned, gamers are a minor part of total PC users.

But don't take my word for it. Go see for yourself :

http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html

This "Vantage" is nothing of the sort...all I can see from where I sit is an over priced piece of crap benchmark with zero real world usefulness in evaluating gaming machines. 

7 fps on my high end machine that runs Crysis ??? 1 free run and you want me to pay to watch the slide show of "thats 70's" graphics ??? please. End of the road for Futuremark right here....

Say good bye...

I might install Vista on another partition and check out the performance difference between a standard install and my highly-gutted Server 2008 install.

hehehe, Andy uses MS fister. Must be a non downgradable version. So please write Vista, as not to remind him he should have an could do so much better.
And poor Charly, at least I suspect he didnt get all this info of the future mark website. I hope he didnt drink to much before he started testing, would be such a waste of booze with al that vomiting from using the broken one that should have never been.
Well I am off to abuse Me a penguin on a machine that will never ever be ME II ready :)
Have a nice weekend, I am getting a headstart, drashek made sense so I just have to ;)

How is a random element any good for a benchmark? Are we going to have to run the damn thing 100 times and average the scores?

Also, how is it good that different computers will be doing different levels/amounts of computations? That introduces a level of nonlinearity to the scores that will be confusing and stupid.

In demo actually i'm too old, too new or rare. anyway, I just don't get it.

However in screenshots ati is listed as Whopping 3 fps. I figure I might be able to run really fast Slide Show pretty well.

Practicing Blinking Your Eyes 3 times per second & coordinateing the closed blink with slide display , you might learn to get 0 fps. Wow, Olympics here I come.
drashek

its not like posting the 3D score on forum for my machine will wet b!tches' panties.


$7 dollars a pop for vantage, future mark can kiss my @ss good bye~ (*note: no more free version, 1 time free then $7 after)

seeing the score does not give me a boner either, i rather go to a strip club $7 dollars can give me/you/him/she a wet dream come out.

gg future, don't give us "oh, we need to hire new progmers, web maintenance, and redesign for vista, blah blah blah blah", ya'll can go on and on and on with how sorry ya'll are to convince us to pay, however, suck my magic stick please. (people will hack it anyway, we'll just skip the online posting, we can live without showing off our mighty mouse from our pants)

ya'll get $500 from each ITs professional anyway, cheap bast@rds.


we don't care. WE DO NOT GIVE A SH!T.
future mark officially is history. your company is a worthless piece of sh!t at this point, so slow on vantage, 2 years in progress and nothing was innovated to a point where it will be me a boner on using it. BL00dy hell.p!ss off. 

Charlie, I thought you said you're never going to run Vista? What's this crap?

...get an avowed Vista/MS hater to write a review of a Vista-only product. One who said he'd never run the OS ever - that must have made the review particularly difficult to write. I do hope all that "malware" didn't do anything nasty to his "software". 

Keep up the sludge-reporting.

Typing "Me II, the broken OS" instead of Windows Vista, thats kind of lame and unprofessional.. a casual reader might not even get the point across.

this is from an almost daily reader of this site.. c'mon stop picking on ms producs, it gets annoying after a while. and yes i do run vista.

"High and Extreme use AA instead of Trilinear"?? I think you mean AF :)