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'slow down global warming some'

People keep going on about 'slowing down global warming' - why? How do we know we haven't actually inadvertently delayed or stopped global cooling? We're already statistically overdue for the next ice age!

posted by : Steve, 15 August 2008 Complain about this comment
hot plastic, anyone?

"they don't have a way of turning the collected energy into usable electricity"

ah.. so they've invented a bit of plastic that heats up in the sun. well done boys.

posted by : eagle, 15 August 2008 Complain about this comment
For heat, not electricity

This is for heat, not for electricity. Physics says that energy degenerates irreversibly to heat; that's only useful for heating things. (All the energy you use at home, pretty much, quickly becomes heat.) Or, rather, to maximum entropy. You can generate electricity from a heat difference or use electricity or other energy to create a cool and hot difference, but always by increasing the entropy. Blame God for that when you see him, until then we have to live with it. But on the upside, this could have heatsink applications: macroscale, maybe better air conditioning.

...Did you say it's made out of gold? Okay, I'll put it next to my platinum hydrogen-maker (real, but not yet ordered).

posted by : Robert Carnegie, 14 August 2008 Complain about this comment
@Nick

Ummm... Not really Nick, all they will do is collect the heat in the tubes, now what you going to do with the hot tubes?

Plus of course the poles receive the least infra-red radiation of any area on the planet, it's all about the angle of incidence.

If you want to cover any area of the planet with anything, it would have to be somewhere on the equator, and far better to cover it with a big mirror just to bounce the heat off back into space... trouble is we have a nice layer of greenhouse gases which will bounce a lot of it back, so it would be far more efficient to get the mirrors above that.

So that's settled then, everyone agreed? We need to invent a couple of hundred square miles of flying mirrors that can cruise a couple of hundred miles up, somewhere near the equator, preferably orbiting the earth once a day so they are at midday in the local time zone all the time.

Anyone want to warn Florida it's going to get dark at midday. (Only picked Florida to annoy the Bush family, cos they *know* global warming doesn't exist!)

posted by : Steve, 14 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Unfortunately not...

@ Nick.

They don't negate heat but instead turn some of the IR wavelengths emitted by 'whatever' to produce an AC current - according to the article at least.

Basically this wouldn't be very effective on a white surface due to the fact that white surfaces are not efficient radiators... the opposite of black surfaces in fact. The wavelengths directly from the sun are less useful for this application due to the smaller amount of incident IR from that source.

An added feature of this is that even with a high efficiency of conversion from IR radiation to electrical current there will still be waste heat present from the material absorbing the heat in the first place. This will be trapped at the surface - nearer than if it was emitted from the surface and absorbed by the atmosphere/particulates and thus increasing the rate of loss of ice from the poles by creating an actual 'greenhouse' effect.... assuming that there wasn't a fast flowing blanket of air moving under and over the material to reduce heat build up.

posted by : James, 13 August 2008 Complain about this comment
re: Hmmm

How about we put some on the equator and make lots of electricity and substitute electricity for generating energy by burning stuff and slow down global warming come?

posted by : hoohoo, 13 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Hmmm

Mass produced, it would be handy to put them at the poles of the planet to slow down global warming some.

posted by : Nick, 13 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Kynar anyone?

Kynar was a plastic film on the market in the mid-eighties. It was piezo-electric, photo-voltaic and sensitive across a fair band of the spectrum.

posted by : hoohoo, 13 August 2008 Complain about this comment

Boffins build cheap solar sheets

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