So there's no way to slip in a USB stick with some quick custom benchmarking script on it? I guess their preview systems must either not have USB ports or be very carefully designed not to respond to unauthorised programs.

What else is new, Whiney?

Where were your stories or at least comments blasting Intel's own canned benchmark sessions in Munich (Core 2 Duo) last May and their beloved "paper benchmarking" on every IDF (Core 2 Duo, Kentsfield, Skulltrail)?

If you go and criticize one side, where is your comment that AMD is nothing but a pathetic follower of a wrong policy?

AMD has done nothing else but copy Intel where Intel should not be copied.

Personally, I don't give a flying fanny about the release of the product until it comes into our offices, but yes, we are in Warsaw - pissed off because you are not?

Anonymous Journalist from EMEA region

When was the last time I saw a benchie that DIDN'T use 3DMark. What planet are you from. Those benching tools look fine. Yep, its annoying that they are telling people what to use, but who cares. There'll be a zillion numbers out 2 weeks later.

Whats worse, is that the entire world will be swayed by bizarro numbers, charts, graphs and conclusions, that all disagree and point in different directions. AMD sold plenty of 2900XT systems, and those gamers still seem to be alive, not catching any terminal illness. And depending on whose website tested what combination of hardware and driver, the results are all quite different.


Honestly is anyone really surprised by this? Seriously in pretty much every independent test over the last hardware generation ATI got stomped by Nvidia per price range plus some where even the lower price nvidia cards stomped ATI's top of the line and we all know that AMD is hurting in the processor race since the release of the Intel Core processor series both on performance and cost. Not to mention the fact that ATI crossfire has always been a joke, hell I've seen benchmarks where it actually decreased overall performance when using 2 HD2900XT.

Really - The nerve of them... I mean, they make the hardware/software, spend the zillions of bucks on all that stuff - don't they have a right to launch it however they want?

I'm not picking sides here, but they have a right to pull as much wool over someone's eyes as they want. It's not like they are putting the wool there - it's already growing on the consumers brow. 

Why are you hitting ATI with a stick? For not shearing wool? That's good business :)

Dear Mr Ferret,

I agree with your point, and indignation, at journalists having to wait until after product release to publish any of their findings outside of the staged event.

However, I do feel you have allowed this indignation to colour the events. The benchmarks they have selected are, at least in my techy/enthusiast eyes, fairly comprehensive. And they cover the main target segments (gonna shoot myself for writing and thinking like a marketeer after pressing submit) for spider, including gaming, rendering and encoding.

At least the article fulfills the Inq's quota of at least one anti-NDA article per seven days... Which is, of course, entirely in line with the premise of being a site of integrity, refusing to give up both rights to free speech and journalistic freedom.

Thanks for a consistently good read.

Message is understood. Sorry to hear that you were not invited to DAAMIT show.

i think the more appropriate question is who doesn't use 3dmark?

Free holiday cant be bad, just check for implants when you get home.

Mr Ferret, Mr Wiley W Ferret.


"Anonymous Journalist"?
Why the anonymous? you didn't say anything that broke any NDA (as if anybody that signs such could be called a journalist in the first place).
So why the 'anonymous', and why the 'journalist'?
Afraid you don't get your cheque from intel this month?

But of course your point is valid.
On the other hand, the inq people are pretty individualistic in some respects and you must take that into account, some like one company, some another, some hate one, some another, hence the inconsistency often.

"Where were your stories or at least comments blasting Intel's own canned benchmark sessions in Munich (Core 2 Duo) last May and their beloved "paper benchmarking" on every IDF (Core 2 Duo, Kentsfield, Skulltrail)?" 

Are you serious??? Those 'canned' Intel runs you refer to were preview information, giving out more data on an UNRELEASED product than AMD has on any pre-launch Barelona/Phenom whoopla...

Intel did not produce 'controlled' benchmarking runs on LAUNCH day, no... all they did was send complete press kits to all major journalist, and were kind enough to lift NDAs a week or two prior to launch. 

Nope... this is not the same, not even the same ballpark. AMD is controlling the release of info just like the '2 review sites' for Barcelona when it launched. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070910-barcelonas-out-and-the-reviews-are-out.html

Yeah, right... in fact, that was the excitement of any 'launch', a complete review of 3rd party independent tests to remove any bias and get to the 'truth'. We will not get this on Monday.

"Where were your stories or at least comments blasting Intel's own canned benchmark sessions in Munich (Core 2 Duo) last May and their beloved "paper benchmarking" on every IDF (Core 2 Duo, Kentsfield, Skulltrail)? "

Ummm:
1) They were not RELEASING at this time, it was an early preview! The chips were not launched until July! 
2) Intel shipped samples to review sites PRIOR to launch (I know it's a crazy concept) - also no NDA required and reviewers were able to run whatever they wanted PRIOR to launch.
3) The early reviews Intel did provide were a bit better than Nero re-code and a single DX10 game 

Too many AMD apologists - this is lame, even for AMD. It's like a bad movie that studios don't want reviewed prior to release - they'll just let you see a very controlled trailer. In my experience those tend to be the really good movies, right?!?

BTW - what's the point of actually being in Warsaw? The event is so controlled it might as well be a video conference - AMD can just stream the selective benchmarks and have 'network' problems for the benchmarks that don;t turn out the way they like.