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Phenoms rock...

just so long as you use a good compiler that isn't made by Intel or someone bribed by Intel. Code that's tweaked to run on AMDs absolutely screams on AMDs, compared to code that's tweaked for Intel that runs pretty good on Intel. The problem is that since Intel is about 90% of the high-end market, code is written for Intel.

Phenoms are the better chips, but everybody wants to get in bed with Intel, so AMD suffers. That's why I own 200 shares of AMD stock, bought with a huge chunk of my paycheck. I have paranoid schizophrenia, so my ability to perform tasks fluctuates enough that a well-paying steady job isn't possible. 120 average tested IQ, and I'm working as a bus-boy at KFC because I can't trust my own perceptions of the physical world.

That's why I'm supporting AMD, because Intel is a POS parasitic corporation and I love to support a deserving underdog.

posted by : Jason Goatcher, 09 August 2008 Complain about this comment
phenoms suck

Too bad you can't put a Core2 in there, huh?

posted by : Axion, 07 August 2008 Complain about this comment
'RAID 5'?

Will "E" Will,

While I appreciate that seeing 'raid5' written on a motherboard's box may inspire some awe. 99% of those motherboards come with what's called 'fakeraid'.
They do nothing to actually speed up the raid calculations they just provide a nice bios screen to put some metadata on the drives. All the raid logic is handled in the drivers.
A good way of telling weather or not there is an open-source Linux driver for the raidset on the motherboard, as fakeraid cards don't have them. (They are handled by exactly the same code as 'software raid' on Linux)
Marvell, for instance markets a 'raid card' that's just an ordinary sata card with a raid-like bios. It has properietary Linux drivers on it's website to read the metadata.

On a sidenote, because this raid metadata is properietary, it is very difficult to migrate your raidset from one motherboard to the next. On the 'cheap' motherboards (anything less than a beefy tyan server board) it's much better to let your OS handle the raid for you. This way, you'll get much better portability of your disks across upgrades.

Don't believe the hype! ;)

posted by : TMM, 07 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Wow!

That was a great article, Charlie. A nice change from all of the nvidia bashing of late.

posted by : Charles, 06 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Processor

We have been watching this processor close at our office <a href="http://3tpro.com">Dallas Computer Consulting</a>. Thanks for the post

posted by : 3T, 06 August 2008 Complain about this comment
This is going to hurt NVIDIA

To tell you the truth, the lack of RAID 5 was one of my only drawbacks to purchasing an AMD chipset. With that bottleneck gone and better performance, NVIDIA is going to be hurting in the chipset department for the next 6-18months.

And who knows, maybe they saw the writing on the wall and did actually decide to exit the chipset business. Only they can't actually confirm that because their exit would issued prematurely by customers refusing to purchase a product that is essentually dead and you "still" can't get support for.

posted by : Will "E" Will, 06 August 2008 Complain about this comment
GMA X4500 Catching Up

Intel's GMA X4500 in the G45 may not break any records, but it is certainly catching up.

http://www.hkepc.com/?id=1510&page=5&fs=idn#view

On early drivers, it's consistently anywhere from 19% to 228% faster than the GMA X3500 in actual games. And only 10-30% slower than the AMD 780G. Admittedly in the comparison, the Q6600 is stronger than the X4 9750, but with Intel's price drops, they are pretty much the same price now so I think it's valid.

In any case, the 790GX ensures AMD keeps it's IGP lead over the GMA X4500 and may even be a response to it.

posted by : Wilfred Laurier, 06 August 2008 Complain about this comment
700 Mhz/s Core is NO Slouch.

AMD is at 20 year LOW & continuing in Tort against Intel for making too many of 36 billion $ of X86 market.

So far 1.5 million pages of year 2000-2005 are assembled, it's be 138 mile high stack of paper. That mean, ole Intel actually Bought products from potential AMD customers & then refused payment if company bought AMD.

Its Nice to See AMD make wide appeal & use board with such Power inside.although final result is bit ordinaryly integratedly NOT so High of 3d numbers, Processor is behemouth, so just coraling beast is something good.
drashek

posted by : Tortillahhh!, 06 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Sounds good.

Thats good I was hoping there would be a chipset to fill in the gap between the 780G and 790fx (790x doesn't count).

Now all the nVidiots you pissed off are gonna acuse you of AMD bumming and so on and completely overlook a good product...... sigh.....

posted by : Aids, 06 August 2008 Complain about this comment
It lacks Hybrid Power

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-integrated-790gx,1988-14.html
"Perhaps, but Nvidia also offers HybridPower for saving energy, even with a couple of power-hungry GPUs installed. AMD’s core logic is missing that interaction, which we think is critical if you hope to sell onboard graphics to high-end buyers."

posted by : Titius, 06 August 2008 Complain about this comment
any two output ?

I heard that you can't run two digital output in the same time ( like DVI & HDMI ), so you can use VGA + any other Digital output ( DVI, HDMI, DP )

posted by : Xajel, 06 August 2008 Complain about this comment

AMD puts out a faster 780G

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