... was touting Technology breakthroughs at the time. If people like Dan still think that processor technology should hold true 6-12 months down the line, why the hell are you continuing to buy into the 6 month refresh cycles and then berating the companies that keep your addictions sound? Dan, while I agree that AMD seems a bit wishy washy here, it's not a matter of pride any more, it's a matter of making money. AMD needs to do the dual quad thing to make money, instead of waiting for their wallets to fill up and upgrading their fabs to make it happen natively. I'm a long time supporter of AMD, and I have nothing bad to say about AMD making this choice. AMD does not deserve to die as a company, you sir, deserve to die for being so closed minded. They're learning from past mistakes. When you can sit back and observe, you can make assumptions about what you'd do in the same position with relative ease. Until you own multi billions worth of fabs, you have no right to dog AMD or any other company.
I doubt is the same as Intel has with their current quads. More likely is that they will have just one hypertransport link between both quads instead of the multilink currently used internally. Given that current dual and quad socket configurations pretty much do that already with no ill results, it should still work better than intel's current approach.
So IATMAD are going to do with 8core CPUs what they denounced and put down intel over with their quads.

So when are AMADIT bringing out the "real" "native" 8 cores? Or are they going to let us get by with a "stopgap" "superglue" processor?

Yeah, those are all DIAATMs words :)
Wait! I thought MCM was a bad Idea, at least while Barcelona was in development. Now that INTC is coming out with native multicore architectures, AMD is going to the bad idea, or is MCM now a good idea? 

Sorry, uh, I’m confused. Wait, I think I’ve got it! AMD can’t do native multi anything. They don’t have the process or the design to pull it off! 

Hmmm, that’s a nice spin. 

SPARKS 
Back when the Opteron came out AMD told us all how great integrating the memory controller on the CPU was, how they could just change it on the CPU and the motherboards would continue to work just fine. So why a new socket? Why are you as bad as Intel was with sockets now? 

AMD deserves to die as a company because they just don't get why they were successful a few years ago.
... was touting Technology breakthroughs at the time. If people like Dan still think that processor technology should hold true 6-12 months down the line, why the hell are you continuing to buy into the 6 month refresh cycles and then berating the companies that keep your addictions sound? Dan, while I agree that AMD seems a bit wishy washy here, it's not a matter of pride any more, it's a matter of making money. AMD needs to do the dual quad thing to make money, instead of waiting for their wallets to fill up and upgrading their fabs to make it happen natively. I'm a long time supporter of AMD, and I have nothing bad to say about AMD making this choice. AMD does not deserve to die as a company, you sir, deserve to die for being so closed minded. They're learning from past mistakes. When you can sit back and observe, you can make assumptions about what you'd do in the same position with relative ease. Until you own multi billions worth of fabs, you have no right to dog AMD or any other company.
I doubt is the same as Intel has with their current quads. More likely is that they will have just one hypertransport link between both quads instead of the multilink currently used internally. Given that current dual and quad socket configurations pretty much do that already with no ill results, it should still work better than intel's current approach.
So IATMAD are going to do with 8core CPUs what they denounced and put down intel over with their quads.

So when are AMADIT bringing out the "real" "native" 8 cores? Or are they going to let us get by with a "stopgap" "superglue" processor?

Yeah, those are all DIAATMs words :)
Wait! I thought MCM was a bad Idea, at least while Barcelona was in development. Now that INTC is coming out with native multicore architectures, AMD is going to the bad idea, or is MCM now a good idea? 

Sorry, uh, I’m confused. Wait, I think I’ve got it! AMD can’t do native multi anything. They don’t have the process or the design to pull it off! 

Hmmm, that’s a nice spin. 

SPARKS 
It started to look as if AMD's 45nm processors were never going to arrive. Hopefully they'll be on par with Intel's aswell...
Back when the Opteron came out AMD told us all how great integrating the memory controller on the CPU was, how they could just change it on the CPU and the motherboards would continue to work just fine. So why a new socket? Why are you as bad as Intel was with sockets now? 

AMD deserves to die as a company because they just don't get why they were successful a few years ago.
"Twin-Native"

Some sort of vergabe to avert the notion that they're about to achieve hypocrite status?
That's a lot of pins.