Nuff said.

It sure seemed nice until I discovered it had no flash capability. And being the skeptic I am I decided to uninstall it and just wait. Besides, I always want to see how uninstall goes ... that's important too dontchaknow.

Interesting thing happened. After the [supposedly] clean uninstall it kept trying to update itself. It seems the updater didn't uninstall and I had to manually remove that. But, Google Earth wouldn't allow that so I had to manually delete the Google Earth folder and then judiciously scrub the registry.

Anyway, Google is beginning to feel a lot like Microsoft in that it just seems to want to take control of the computer away from me. But, that's just me.

However, I'm quite satisfied with Firefox 3 so I think I'll just steer clear of Google.

Sorry google but I cannot imagine going back to seeing ads and not being able to use rikaichan to read japanese sites. Some plugins have just become a part of my daily life.

Google Chrome Users go to this page and click on the link that is on the post.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=322801

You have to use Google Chrome.
Funny how Chrome is so pure that it doesnt like the word evil.

Opera is about as fast has more features and uses less HDD space and memory.
The only thing that chrome offers to Opera users is the process per tab feature. Woohoo I'll go get drunk on it with enthusiasm NOT!

Barring not even being able to deal with known java exploits when writing chrome, google also totally failed to make chrome work with SEP if you allow sandboxing (Kind of a major feature for chrome to be secure - which it won't be).

Yeah fireferret users have something to look forward. IE users have another insecure browser to laugh at (Along with firefox and safari - why are mozzerella still fixing bugs Microsoft fixed 4 years ago if they're so good?).
As for me (Opera user) I'll keep my browser priority the same (Well almost - firefox drops to 4th after chrome). Opera is still the best followed by IE.

Hmm wonder if apple ("It just sucks" - not "It just works") and firefox fan boys will flame me?

Why, you ask? Because I'm used to Firefox. I tried Chrome for all of two minutes. Spent 1 minute of that looking for my bookmarks because for some reason it was missing. Well, if you're slow like me, it's Ctrl +B. Just that fact alone pissed me off enough to scrap it.

An in-depth look at the browser can be found here: http://www.standandcount.com/the-fourth-musketeer/


Have to type this first: Carla on TV & states John will investigate every government employee & post names on internet every year. Wowie, Wowow, Wow,wow,wow. Hot Jumping Monkies.
Chromium is only for xp.Next:How come you have MORE TABS Than I?

Arn't I suppose to Have Most TABS? What about CAPS? Must I have Caps With TABS? I Want More cromo tABS.
Rev Thomas Lewin shi drashek

This is based off code that's in (the Windows version of) Safari? I'm not touching it with a barge pole.

lol

Revolutionary? Really? This is going to start a an actual revolution? Amazing!

Could the Google Chrome revolution be equivalent, nay, exceed the power, scope, and historical significance of the revolution brought about by the "shamwow" liquid absorbing cloth? Dare we dream such dreams?

I am blown away. An actual revolution... wow!

I did not like a few things like it ported my favorites open and set the default open pages to what was in Links. I had to move these somewhere else as that is not what I wanted. I was then able to set my homepage and search engine (surprised and pleased it did not set Google by default for both). I liked being able to set up folders along the top for my favorites.

I was not pleased that it would download some video files instead of just temporarily caching it.The downloads are handled well though.

It did seem quite stable and was quite responsive. I think with a few more features and some tweaks that this could really take off. I never cared for other alternatives and have used IE almost exclusively, but for now I am running Chrome.

Again I was VERY surprised by the lack of Google tools, Google search, G-Mail, Google home page, Google desktop....

Just went over to download, but got stuck reading the small print. There's way to much legalese and they put it into a tiny frame to make it even harder to read. Here I'm back again with my favourite browser - Opera. Don't like the fruity engine anyway. Doesn't even do SVG right.

in your partiality (8 beers,lol), guess you didn't take into consideration what CNN did...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/09/03/review.chrome.ap/index.html

I just love propagandistic journalism

So why didn't this title have "porn mode enabled" in it anywhere? It has the same function of IE8 but we don't bash it because its not MS? Seems quite unfair. Sickening to see a concept be accepted for the same exact thing that another is being bashed on for.

Say bye bye to your privacy, google is determinated to dig it all.

Francois

Well it doesn't seem to like Microsoft's most stable OS - XP x64... Crashed 3 times on first attempts to load and 4 more times trying to access the options settings... Uninstalled after less than 5 minutes!!! I've only ever had about a half-dozen illegal operations with this OS since installing the first beta a long time back so when something does crash I tend to get VERY suspicious...

"You can catch exceptions and clear up threads no problem."

No, you can't. The system provides no isolation whatsoever between threads. Processes crash. not threads.

You can catch 'exceptions' in the sense of exceptions intentionally thrown by the process. But if the exception was unintentional (due to a bug, not an unusual condition that was anticipated by the programmer) you cannot clean up. It is impossible.

Consider a thread that acquires a mutex, breaks some invariants, and then before it can restore them and release the mutex, it divides by zero. How can you possibly know how to restore the invariants before releasing the mutex?

Suppose a thread allocates a whole bunch of memory and then crashes by dereferencing a NULL pointer. How can you know what of that memory you must free to keep from running out of resources and what of it you must not free because it's accessible by other threads?

Threads are great, but they cannot provide isolation from unanticipated failure conditions. You need processes for that.

Google’s new browser will give you their web and email services, photo processing, mapping, office applications that will run in said browser and will make you a cup of tea. This is all paid for by personally-directed text ads in your tea leaves, based on analysing a DNA sample taken when you sip the tea and sending your genetic code back to Google for future targeting. http://notnews.today.com/?p=57

I must agree with Chrome being memory hungry - it really takes a lot of it.

But on the other hand it is really quick and fun to use.

It's a good start.
I've had a surf around with it and it works ok. Flash kind of "just worked", imported from firefox somehow? I didnt need to install it again (though it did get a bit cpu hungry on some sites). 

To the people with the crashes, you're on Vista aren't you? Come on, admit it, it's a shit OS ;)

Now, if they can sort that eula, and continue to evolve the software as they do with all their other perpetually beta stuff, i for one think goog is on to a winner. Good on 'em. The more alternatives to ie we have the better imho.

Incognito mode would be very useful for checking multiple accounts with the same bank. For instance, with firefox, when in one bank account window, to get to another account within the same bank, I would need to shutdown firefox completely and then reopen it to access a seperate account with the same bank. With incognito mode, it is possible to access both accounts at once.

http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/

You can find more recent builds here, and they're open source to boot. If you're worried about Chrome phoning home to the Google mothership then Chromium is the way to go.

At least it should behave exactly the same as Safari so there's no need to deal with another set of (CSS) bugs.

It is a nice try but I don't think it's anything so good that you will be getting many people to switch over from Firefox, and it took years for Firefox to take hold even when it is soooo much better than IE.

I also disagree with the "clean" assessment of the browser since ANY new install of a browser is "clean" - without all those bookmarks / RSS feeds, only difference I see is that they eliminated the file/edit menu bar - which I actually liked (IE7 pisses me off in that regard for its default config).

Oh yeah, that license agreement seems a little suspicious for a "open-source" project too. But at least Firefox can just take whatever source code that it needs.

Chrome was designed with the though that the webpage is right. Which is absolutely wrong. Many many many webpages are deeply flawed and you need a good tool to do what you want with the web. Chrome (at the moment) is not that tool. If you want the web to do what YOU want as opposed to being forced to do what IT wants, then you should not be using chrome. Yes, asthetically chrome is very nice, but I couldnt care less because I want the web to do what I want. Sure, for most people they just happily click links and enter passwords so no big deal, but if you actually use a browser to download and access content, then chrome is a no no.

To be fair I download a new version of Minefield every night, so I'm not using FF3.0, but some pre3.1 release and it is blazing fast (much faster for javascript). Chrome also uses enormous amounts of memory. the FF team spent tons of time improving memory management and it shows, especially if you are opening lots of images. If you try to open lots of images in chrome you will wait for a long, long time and some will sit at about:blank forever. I know its a beta, but I expect more. Incognito? Fine, but I could just be using TOR and actually password protecting my windows user account (which I do).

I think its great for people who dont go dumpsterdiving on the web, and who have a limited number of sites that they go to.

Also, its missing favicons!??!?! Believe it or not favicons make finding the page you want in a long list MUCH faster because your brain can recognize a little patter much faster than a address.

IMO firefox is better for the needs of a serious web user who wants their software to do what they want.

Ok Fernando, you like it and I like too, but, despite a well desigend "porn mode", calling it revolutionary is too much.

It's a browser, very fast and stable, designed to enforce the Googles strategies, stop.

Also you forgot to compare it with Opera, a browser that already has some of the chrome features.

about:plugins

ActiveX Plug-in
File name: activex-shim
ActiveX Plug-in provides a shim to support ActiveX controls

Sorry, try again when you decide not to do stupid things.

I managed to crash Chrome at least 3 times in first one hour.. first i clicked "Learn More" link on the "Under the hood" tab of browser. (it crashes every time i do that) The it was ads-rich yahoo sports page - twice.

I like Chrome and I´ll keep using treehoo.com (the Google-based site that plants trees) as my default hoempage!

Excuse me ... Doesn't anyone get the point? Chrome is exactly where we were years ago with the founding of Netscape. Just imagine where we should be today.

Web 2.0 is a feeble and belated excuse for what should have started 10 years ago .... if it weren't for the "barriers to entry". Doesn't anyone remember the 'net liberation of Mozilla? And what we should have been able to do online (word processing, emailing, archiving, chatting etc etc) through a single consistent user-interface called a browser?

Shoot! The human race just wasted 10 years.


I'm sorry but I can't agree about it being revolutionary. It's an OK browser that works at an OK speed. Firefox is still by far the better browser, and for all the non-standard features Google have added for creating applications, without a large market share they'll never get used. 

They should have stuck with funding Firefox and tried to include their applications stuff in there, that way they would have at least had a half decent market share instead of starting at zero.

As far as I'm concerned this is just another PITA browser to have to test and make sure everything works with. Sure it's very CSS compliant and is using the same renderer as Safari, but who knows what differences will exist?

I also have serious privacy concerns. I know Google have included a porn mode, but I bet that doesn't stop them logging any searches you make through their search engine. And when you're not in porn mode, will it be looking at the sites you're looking at and delivering targeted adverts? Google are getting far too intrusive by half in my book.

Innovative Startup Screen


It's called "Opera."

over in the UK they look at "Exotic Brazilians with brazillians".

The grass is always greener, but you still got to mow it.

the word "apple"

If you're like every other geek, you were one of the many people who downloaded Google Chrome within minutes of it's 3:00PM EST release today. There's no doubt about it -- Chrome is ridiculously faster than Firefox and IE. But you, like virtually every computer user out there, probably didn't even bother to gloss over the Chrome Terms of Service.


11. Content license from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

In other words, by posting anything (via Chrome) to your blog(s), any forum, video site, myspace, itunes, or any other site that might happen to be supporting you, Google can use your work without paying you a dime. They can go and edit it all they want. Even further, you're claiming that you have the power to grant these rights. So no one who works for Conde Nast (Wired, Arstechnica), TechCrunch, Gawker, any of the other big web publishers, or a university where the employee is performing research can agree to the Chrome ToS because they most likely don't have the right to give a license to the IP (intellectual property) they produce.

Most likely your employee or student agreement requires that your employer/university exclusively owns all IP that you make during your time there. Many employment contracts require that the employee signs away exclusive rights to all IP they create during work hours and anything created off hours related to their employer's business. Students get their credit because the university typically gets copyrights to any writings and exclusive patent rights to any research and inventions. This means that many content creators (news writers, song writers, artists, copy editors, musicians, students) cannot legally agree to these ToS because they'd be in breach of their employment/student contracts.

Further, you probably can't use your company or school email with Chrome, because your company probably exclusively owns your email, and you can't give away a license to something you don't own. You also can't make representations to Google that you have the power to license this IP if you don't.

And for the record, Microsoft tried this years ago with MSN messenger, where MS got an irrevocable perpetual license to all IP that passed through MSN messenger, and the net basically revolted. AOL did this too with AIM.

There are some people who have claimed that this is standard legal jargon for every piece of software. Not only is that simply not true, no clause even close to that is in the Firefox terms of service.

And unlike all these people who "are not a lawyer", I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer, and this post does not constitute an attorney-client relationship, but Chrome's ToS are ridiculous. If you're like me, you use your browser for a lot more than just web browsing. The web browser is an entire application platform (isn't that the idea behind web apps?). Google simply cannot have a license to all of the IP that goes through my browser. I, as an attorney, cannot give that up, especially because some of it is confidential. The Rules of Professional Responsiblity (which all lawyers must abide by) easily prohibit this exact kind of thing. Until Google scales this back, I will NOT be using Chrome.

With more and more apps being shifted into web browsers, this is almost like MS claiming that it gets a license to any document in MS Word, Powerpoint, or Excel. What if MS got a license to patents, trademarks and copyrights of any software created with Visio or Visual Studio? What if Maya got a license to everything 3d model you made? What if Adobe got a license to everything made in Photoshop? We have to stand up and stop accepting these ridiculous EULAs.

The worst part is the software guys over at Google saying that it's no big deal. Well, if it's no big deal, and they're not going to enforce it, then why is it in this contract? Take it out, and don't put it back in. "Do no evil," remember?

-- David Loschiavo, licensed to practice in FL.

You do know that threading is done so that you don't need to have multiple processes? You can catch exceptions and clear up threads no problem. This approach is plain achaic and retarded in the software world. Simply done to avoid needing software guys with a smidgen of multi-threading experience. I assume it's been written by a bunch of students as stoned as the author.

Light another fat one...

you might want to check the meaning of the word "revolution". besides that, yes its good for a 0.2 beta and very pleasant to use.

bad-
- the "innovative" startup screen/new tab screen compromises privacy and cant be changed.
- it localizes the ui base on currency settings. no, i want an english interface and not my applications localized. especially not based on currency choice.
- it installs a "googleupdater" process without asking that cant be toggled off in settings.
- it lacks a lot of features, such as "find as you type"

im sure with time that it will end up being very useful though.

From chromes terms of service:

"By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services."

"Some of the services are supported by advertising revenue and may display advertisements and promotions. These advertisements may be targeted to the content of information stored on the services, queries made through the services or other information.

The manner, mode and extent of advertising by Google on the services are subject to change without specific notice to you." 

Classic Google. We are not evil but we will watch your pronz. 

While posting this my Firefox crashed 3 times.

Someone is really testing the incognito mode... 

If you look carefully at the image above:
"Chrome's 'Incognito mode"
You will see one of the tabs has.
"UK Babes Stripped Naked...."

Good to see a real use case being tested though ;)

I use the web a lot for document preparation. On a widescreen display I regularly use XP's Tile Windows function. Chromes windows are not standard windows. They won't tile.

Add to that the lack of any Zoom to element function which is also pretty basic web browsing stuff these days and I think I will stick with Mozilla and it's many plug ins.

http://tapthehive.com/discuss/This_Post_Not_Made_In_Chrome_Google_s_EULA_Sucks

Well, imagine my surprise when during a first session with Chrome, when visiting a site that server up PDF's in a frame, the whole thing went belly-up, not just a tab, the whole browser.
Not believing my bad luck, I tried the same thing again this morning from a different computer with a different version of Adobe Reader installed, and the thing hung up on me again.

Frustrating.

Well every Flash advert on any site crashes on load. So in one way it doesn't work well at all... but on the other hand I don't see any adverts! Good or bad thing? Humm... Love how fast it is though. Also love the layout, even if it is a little too Apple for my liking. 

Hang on, it's using 85mb RAM just to have the INQ and a gmail window open! That's not right! Watch the memory usage on this one...

Google read all my emails and know all my web searches. I don't want them to see every web page I do as well.

I dicovered a beautiful, fast, clean browser last week, and have used it every day since. It's called elinks.

It didn't crash on me but incompatibility with sites I use will keep me from using it until the Javascript engine works and the bugs are stomped. We'll see how it handles porn momentarily. LOL!!!!

The "revolutionary" new tab/start screen with pictures of your favourite webpages?
Welcome to Opera, circa 2 years ago.

"Revolutionary" downloads in the status bar?
Welcome to Firefox extensions!

"Revolutionary" show all downloads window?
Welcome to Opera, circa... eh. forever?

"Revolutionary" Bookmarking star?
See Firefox 2.

"Revolutionary" Google Gears support?
Ooohh, just what we need another propietary content delivery/integrated "application" system. 
What year was ActiveX introduced again?

"Revolutionary" private browsing feature?
Like IE8 has been touting for ages? Or firefox extensions have been doing for years? Does this one clear the cache too?

OOh, based on Safari's engine - well known for being bug free, standards compliant, stable, and with great security. After all, you can trust Apple to look after the bugs, can't you? Oh wait.


Honestly anyone seeing this as anything new in this has been living under an IT rock for the past 5 years.
Google are getting as bad as the Vole and Apple for releasing with huge fanfare 3 year old ideas to tame hacks who don't know any better.

Never thought I'd refer to an Inquirer writer as a tame hack who knows no better....

It needs more polish, for example F11 doesn't work

WTF? How about recognising the real authors?

You guys obviously didn't try loading any sites that rely heavily on Flash. Go to www.adobe.com in Chrome and let us know how 'good' an experience you get there. The non-activex 'Firefox/Mozilla/Netscape/Safari/Opera' adobe flash installer does not install a plugin for Chrome.

I love live bookmarks in Firefox - shame these aren't in Chrome.

is very useful for clear reasons - e.g. I have two google e-mail addresses, one for work and one for my blog and stuff. Incognito will allow me to check the work mail without upsetting all my open google document windows. Can't wait.

on the list of blocked java script sites tells me, why the Inquirer judges the new google browser so positive.

This thing is so naive it makes go all "No Dave. I can't open the door Dave."


http://images.vnu.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/09/02/google-chrome-first-impressions--revolutionary/chrome-incognito.jpg

would just like to point out that the 5yh picture on the middle tab it says "UK babes - Stipping naked"

LOLOLOLOL

wonder what you was upto when you wrote this ^^

Consumes more RAM than IE8. Nice one 

http://exo-blog.blogspot.com/2008/09/google-chrome-fattest-of-them-all.html