The Inquirer-Home
Comments
Give your personal details to an arms company

Thales and BAE systems, hmmm what kind of people would you want to have control over you, the Goevernment and arms companies??
I say give to to IBM, they have a proven track record in this area in the past, Germany I think it was.

posted by : Keith, 27 May 2008 Complain about this comment
National Identity Register, not just card

As always we have foreign nationals asking what the problem is. The problem is that this is not just an identity card. The card is to be coupled to a back-end database which could contain:

- Biometric data including fingerprints and iris scans
- Complete record of where you now live, and any second homes including overseas
- Every other document the government has issued about you including passports, driving licenses, national insurance, health cards
- Details of who countersigned your application form
- Audit trail of everyone who has ever accessed your record and for what purpose
- A complete history of every one of the above pieces of information.

These are listed in Schedule 1 of the Identity Cards Act 2006 at http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/ukpga_20060015_en_5#sch1.

The plan is to make the system 'pay for itself' by allowing open access to the system by any third-party who thinks it will be useful. The document numbers of other documents act as keys into other systems which could allow the government to cross-reference between systems.

You won't be able to just present the card for many services, you will need to perform biometric captures (e.g. fingerprint reading) to authenticate against the database itself (which will be recorded in the database).

The Act sets out fines of up to £1,000 for not keeping your record up to date.

Many of the features can be used to assist in 'joined-up' government, but they can also be misused by government and agencies to trawl the data. The audit trail makes sense from a 'who disclosed this information then' point of view, but it's a massive invasion of privacy which tracks everywhere you've used the card. I for one would prefer not to let the government - or any other organization - have this level of information about my life.

We have survived very well without identity cards for fifty years and under more dangerous circumstances than this. I see no need to invade everyone's privacy for very minor benefits, if any at all.

On top of that it's a very expensive scheme with a high probability of being implemented incorrectly, of being subject to information disclosures, of being subject to false positives and negatives (not identifying you when you need it to), and of being unavailable when needed.

posted by : Mike Dimmick, 27 May 2008 Complain about this comment
Mark of the beast coming?

When it´s time to get the mark on the right hand or forehead, do I get to pick where to put it, or will that be decided for me, too?

Btw, for those who care, I´m a US citizen, and intend to vote for whichever Democrat wins the nomination. Hopefully, things will be unfscked enough in 2013 that we can quit allowing ourselves to be enslaved by the government and get back to doing what we´re supposed to be doing. That being going back to being the greatest country in the world. (I doubt we can pull it off, but I´m hopeful)

posted by : Jason Goatcher, 27 May 2008 Complain about this comment
What a nice frame

Is it just me, or does this actually look like a marvelously well-crafted Get Out Of Jail Free card for all Strategic Suppliers ?
With a setup like this, the Big Five will rake in billions, put low-paid code monkeys in place who will pound keys willy-nilly and, when nothing works as advertised, they'll play blame tennis for ten years or more while pocketing yet more money to "fix" things.
In the end, it'll all be for nothing anyway, since Uncle Sam will be running the NHS and ID databases from Las Vegas, and they'll VOIP you to tell you what time you have to get up tomorrow morning and don't forget to take out the trash this time.
Ah, isn't the future a wonderful place ?

posted by : Pascal Monett, 26 May 2008 Complain about this comment
Comment.

IBM still up to their old tricks eh..

Incidentally, I hear that in belgium microsoft makes the ID cards, so which of those acronyms you list is MS hiding behind?

posted by : W.-, 26 May 2008 Complain about this comment
Golden goose time

In my experience, at least 2 of the bidders (US) are parasites to the point of seriously crippling the business efficiency of their customers.
And why should it be different in this case?

posted by : Name witheld, 26 May 2008 Complain about this comment
Identity

lol some are ur comments makes me think your 2 year olders

here in Malta we have had id cards since before i was born and i have never heard/seen or read about identity theft. 

grow up.....

posted by : Kurt, 26 May 2008 Complain about this comment
@Martin

Yes, but who would want an Estonian identity anyway.... [evil grin]

posted by : The Evil Twin, 26 May 2008 Complain about this comment
reply

quote "ID Cards
I cant understand people who think ID card = Id theft. If its done properly its no less secure than any other system you have right now. Take Estonia, we've had ID cards for years now and sorry to burst your bubble, ID thefts are non existant."

Perhaps your govt. don't regually give away your details. i'd link to an Inquirer article but can't be bothered to look.

posted by : Andrew, 26 May 2008 Complain about this comment
ID Cards

I cant understand people who think ID card = Id theft. If its done properly its no less secure than any other system you have right now. Take Estonia, we've had ID cards for years now and sorry to burst your bubble, ID thefts are non existant.

posted by : martin, 25 May 2008 Complain about this comment
Emigrate.

As much as I hate to be forced out of my own country: 

"Would the last person to leave Britain please turn the lights out?"

posted by : Weasel, 25 May 2008 Complain about this comment
Another ID Event.

First, How smart is it to give Your Identification to Machine from Forgien Govenment? Trading You perhaps for Lost SoulMate instantly.

Second. In US Senate new Bill requires Real Estate Brokers & other home Invasion Murders to submit to Finger Print ID as Part of protocol. Lift Those Prints & Serve.Bub.
Drashek

posted by : ID?_Ultie!, 24 May 2008 Complain about this comment
Identity

a few weeks after these cards are launched, can the person that buys my identity on e-bay please tell me who i am

posted by : Andrew, 24 May 2008 Complain about this comment

ID card contest takes no losers

aboutus
Advertisement
Subscribe to INQ newsletters
Advertisement
INQ Poll

Authorities in several countries raided Megaupload recently, shut down all of its services, seized hundreds of servers and arrested several of its executives on criminal charges.

Do you think the move was justified?