I love that, good news...did anyone benchmark a few of these 10 solutions?

I love horse races, especially the kind with horses, that run, and have a clever performance numbering scheme.
Comment by Alberto Machiato is again in line with the stupidity the chiefs on top are releasing on a nearly every day base...

1600 employees have to go, but what with the 100'of VP and useless directors burning cash at lightspeed ?

Do the math: director earns roughly +$300k base + variable cheese
VP touch down is arround $500k...

VP's today are arround 80 and directors...

But then again guess what kind of people will need to go...
With Brain Big Enough to Fill WashTub, Barcelona is Completely New Breed. Hurray.

However, that Naughty Intel has Come Up to Starting Gate with something Barcelona just Might Need. Dual on Board Memory Controllers. For even Mo More Memroy.

Wouldn't be ill advised to write that Rev into DDR3 in upper limit of near 2 ghz, of course its still in Field Test Trial right NOW. So Hope & Pray, it might be: AMD Happy, Happy BirthDay...Bozo,Bozo,....
Thomas von Drashek
AMD should not fight Intel head on. That's suicide. They have neither the resources nor the talent to do so.

What AMD needs to do is sit down and rethink its entire strategy. They have to make chips in ways that are needed but that Intel will not bother with. I don't know what those ways are but AMD needs to take an indirect approach if it wants to survive.
This is still a farce as the availabilty of the B3 stepping chips is about zero. Try to buy a HP or Dell machine with a B3 and guess what? Lead times are 12 to 16 weeks on systems.... Talk to your sales rep and the plot thickens - it's not because of strong demand - it's because that is when AMD "says" they will deliver parts...demand is actually low as lead time are so long.

So while I am happy to see that B3 is fixed and performs well AMD is still not out of the woods. They have yet to be able to deliver parts in quantity at clock speeds people want and power consumption that is realisitc. Nobody is going to rush out to buy 2.1Ghz quad core B3's that are using 100W for top dollar.

Lets not mention the performance of Nehalem on our HPC code as that's under NDA, but it is very safe to state that the B3 is no match for what Intel has coming next so lets hope Shanghai isn't late, busted, or not available in quantity.

So would it be true to say that most of these new Barcelona based solutions will be sitting on (using) NVIDIA chipsets?

So the Barcelona is going to pull AMD out of the mud, but won't it also bolster NVIDIA.

Why has AMD given up on building highend chipsets. Will the Barcelona be the new highend home HDTV decoder?
HDTV streaming is still a few years away yet, streaming has only just started to move to 700Kbps.
So, what market are they hitting at and where will they make the money?
[back to gaming?]
The Barcelona HAS an integrated dual memory controller.

Actually, it's the current Xeons that lack it.
I love that, good news...did anyone benchmark a few of these 10 solutions?

I love horse races, especially the kind with horses, that run, and have a clever performance numbering scheme.
Comment by Alberto Machiato is again in line with the stupidity the chiefs on top are releasing on a nearly every day base...

1600 employees have to go, but what with the 100'of VP and useless directors burning cash at lightspeed ?

Do the math: director earns roughly +$300k base + variable cheese
VP touch down is arround $500k...

VP's today are arround 80 and directors...

But then again guess what kind of people will need to go...
Isn't this joke late for April's fools
I think I remember hearing that name a few years ago. What was it again?
in the last paragraph

SM replies: Thanks Nobby... fixing 'em now.
With Brain Big Enough to Fill WashTub, Barcelona is Completely New Breed. Hurray.

However, that Naughty Intel has Come Up to Starting Gate with something Barcelona just Might Need. Dual on Board Memory Controllers. For even Mo More Memroy.

Wouldn't be ill advised to write that Rev into DDR3 in upper limit of near 2 ghz, of course its still in Field Test Trial right NOW. So Hope & Pray, it might be: AMD Happy, Happy BirthDay...Bozo,Bozo,....
Thomas von Drashek
AMD should not fight Intel head on. That's suicide. They have neither the resources nor the talent to do so.

What AMD needs to do is sit down and rethink its entire strategy. They have to make chips in ways that are needed but that Intel will not bother with. I don't know what those ways are but AMD needs to take an indirect approach if it wants to survive.
This is still a farce as the availabilty of the B3 stepping chips is about zero. Try to buy a HP or Dell machine with a B3 and guess what? Lead times are 12 to 16 weeks on systems.... Talk to your sales rep and the plot thickens - it's not because of strong demand - it's because that is when AMD "says" they will deliver parts...demand is actually low as lead time are so long.

So while I am happy to see that B3 is fixed and performs well AMD is still not out of the woods. They have yet to be able to deliver parts in quantity at clock speeds people want and power consumption that is realisitc. Nobody is going to rush out to buy 2.1Ghz quad core B3's that are using 100W for top dollar.

Lets not mention the performance of Nehalem on our HPC code as that's under NDA, but it is very safe to state that the B3 is no match for what Intel has coming next so lets hope Shanghai isn't late, busted, or not available in quantity.

So would it be true to say that most of these new Barcelona based solutions will be sitting on (using) NVIDIA chipsets?

So the Barcelona is going to pull AMD out of the mud, but won't it also bolster NVIDIA.

Why has AMD given up on building highend chipsets. Will the Barcelona be the new highend home HDTV decoder?
HDTV streaming is still a few years away yet, streaming has only just started to move to 700Kbps.
So, what market are they hitting at and where will they make the money?
[back to gaming?]